From: dog_cow@macgui.com   
      
   On 2/28/25 3:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   > On 28 Feb 2025 09:49:01 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:   
   >   
   >> Mike Spencer  wrote or quoted:   
   >>>   
   >>> Me: So, how Hdo you program it?   
   >>   
   >> IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:   
   >> You buy a Lisa.   
   >   
   > The original 128K Mac was simply too resource-starved to self-host any   
   > useful development environment.   
      
   That's not correct.   
      
   >   
   > Except ... Forth. I think there was a Forth-based product called “Neon”   
   > that actually let you write programs on a 128K Mac, to run on a 128K Mac.   
   >   
      
   That's not correct.   
      
   Bill Duvall's 68000 Development System ran on a Mac 128K. So did his C   
   compiler. So did several other C compilers.   
      
   So did the Mainstay MacASM compiler (which was the first native   
   assembler released for Mac 128K in 1984). So did Creative Solutions'   
   MacFORTH.   
      
   Here are some articles that you can read to learn more about software   
   development on the Mac 128K:   
      
   https://macgui.com/news/showcat.php?id=8&tag=5   
      
   C On the Macintosh: Historical Overview   
   https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=537   
      
   MacASM Macro Assembler by Mainstay   
   https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=458   
      
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