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   On Fri, 7 Mar 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:   
      
   >> Thank you! Very interesting, I had no idea!   
   >   
   > An excellent reference to how it got where it is is   
   >   
   >  United States Penetration of Brazil   
   >  Jan Knippers Black,   
   >  University of Pennsylvania Press, 1977   
   >  ISBN 0-8122-7720-1.   
      
   Thank you for the recommendation. Sadly I do not think my schedule allows it at   
   the moment, I have way too many philosophical topics on my plate at the moment.   
   =(   
      
   >>> You're quite right.  It is indeed *very* distracting.  In fact,   
   >>> observing such things has given the conclusion that visual stimili (at   
   >>> least in myself) is a really strong physiological thing: it seems quite   
   >>   
   >> I also imagine that in south america it is still fashionable for women to be   
   >> women, and that women are feminine? I hope so... I like that!   
   >   
   > Lol.  A declaration like that won't get much support around here. :)   
   > We're living in a globalized world.  Even news casters now use words   
   > like ``spoiler''.  Literally---no translation needed.  My geography   
   > teachers in elementary school now seem like prophets.   
      
   What!?! Please don't spoil my dreams of travelling to Brazil meeting loads of   
   beautiful brazilian women who would be naturally interested in a swede with   
   blue   
   eyes! ;)   
      
   >>> stronger than any will power.  I started out reading at the beach so I   
   >>> would have something to do there, staying longer in the sun.  So my slow   
   >>> reading doesn't defeat that purpose.  I also often go during week days,   
   >>> when the beach is not crowded with people.  It worked out so well that   
   >>   
   >> Aha... so that's how you get any work done! I imagine if you would go during   
   >> beach rush hour, you'd not get a lot of things done. ;)   
   >   
   > Lol.  You're quite right.  One thing that's happening is that I'm a very   
   > approachable person and being there nearly every day brings new friends.   
   > Now every now then there appears someone to chat.  I feel unable to tell   
   > anyone to go away, even because---when people approach for chat---it's   
   > evidently the case that they're in need of something.  (They might also   
   > think that I'm killing time.)  I never really tell them to go away.   
   > That doesn't help the work much.  Nevertheless, one of my deadlines got   
   > extended by a week and so I was able to get a project's phase done---I'm   
   > on time!   
      
   Amazing! You couldn't get further from the swedish folk psyche. In sweden two   
   people could sit next to each other for years, and at most nod to each other.   
   Maybe after a year or two, a small conversation might start.   
      
   In the subway, no one talks to each other. People mainstain silence and look at   
   their phones. Only people who know each other talk on the subway. Definitely   
   not   
   strangers.   
      
   >>> it seems to work like a second phase of my work schedule.  I write in   
   >>> the morning and read in the afternoon, intermixed with walking,   
   >>> swimming and biking.  I cannot do it *every* day because I need to   
   >>> [be] ``the office'' some days.   
   >>   
   >> Sounds like you have a very nice job there!   
   >   
   > It's my favorite ever.  My at-the-office phase restarts in two weeks.   
      
   Ouch! Hopefully it will not last too long!   
      
   >> And what about beef? I heard there are wars in south america over   
   >> whether argentina or brazil has the best beef? Who is right?   
   >   
   > I never quite heard of wars, but surely Argentina is known as one of the   
   > best bovine meat producers.  And so in Brazil's south.  Historically,   
   > they have a lot of tradition (and still do).  So Argentina or not, it's   
   > that whole region, going beyond Brazil and Argentina.   
   >   
   > As a teenager (with my family), I traveled once to a beach place in the   
   > state of Rio de Janeiro and one thing got stuck in my memory about a   
   > dinner we had an Argentine restaurant.  The (small) place was run by the   
   > owner himself, who was an Argentine.  The meat was unforgettable.   
   > Brazil's south is known as people who know how to barbeque like no one.   
   > I'm sure the same applies to the Argentines.   
      
   Another dream! Except for the women, above, I dream of going to brazil and   
   argentina for a beef and bbq safari! This would be excellent! Maybe I would   
   never leave again? =)   
      
   >>> But I consider coffee---no matter how good quality if might be---a drug   
   >>> to be totally kept on a leash.  I don't think we should make regular use   
   >>> of any stimulants---of any drug at all.   
   >>   
   >> Ahh... and here I drink between 0.5 and 0.7 liters per day! ;)   
   >   
   > That's a huge quantity.   
      
   Really? Just regular coffee. No espresso! ;)   
      
   >> But I don't have to drink it... from time to time I just stop when I   
   >> get tired of it and move to tea instead, and never experience any   
   >> negative withdrawal symptoms. My favourite tea is Lapsang.   
   >   
   > If you don't completely, then at least stop as you already do but then   
   > don't substitute it for tea or any other caffeine or theobromine intake   
   > (such as cocoa products like chocolate).  Let your system rest from   
   > these substances.  The less you take in, the more tolerant you become.   
   > The more you do, the less you get.   
      
   Interesting experiment! I've tried it due to chance a couple of times, but then   
   I get so tired in the evening, so I won't get as much quality computer time in   
   when the wife sleeps. ;)   
      
   >>> I am probably a naturalist.  If coffee ``accelerates your physiology'',   
   >>> then we can say that such ``speed'' is not the natural way of your body.   
   >>> If you do it every day, you're totally not respecting the natural way of   
   >>> the system.  Not a religious thing at all---recall that perspective I   
   >>> had on tattoos.  So this is another illustration of why I find myself   
   >>> more religious than the vast number of very religious people I've ever   
   >>> met.   
   >>   
   >> Well, maybe principled? I think religious has many supernatural connotations   
   >> that I find nto so good to mix up in these kinds of discussions.   
   >   
   > ``Principled'' it is.  Words don't really matter.  We need them here,   
   > but they're just the tags on the pointers.  Remember Juliet?  ``What's   
   > in a name?''   
      
   Amen!   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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