From: smirzo@example.com
D writes:
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:
>
>>>> Yeah---there's a fine line between incrementing language and sticking
>>>> with the previous, well-established vocabulary. That's particularly
>>>> important for hackers because they have an imense amount of vocabulary
>>>> to manage and great fluency is essential to their day-to-day operations.
>>>
>>> Another example from hell for me is powershell. I've never seen such long
>>> command! Microsoft powershell gurus must really enjoy typing!
>>
>> Besides, it's yet another shell. Even if it were really great... Have
>> you seen Plan9's rc? It's a very neat shell. But it's not Bourne's sh.
>> It's hard to overcome the inertia of a large body moving at high speed.
>
> Never seen. How does it differ from plain old bash?
The thing I recall was that rc had a native list data structure. I
don't recall much more than that; the feeling was that it was neat,
tidy, more concise, more elegant. It felt closer to a general-purpose
programming language, while still supporting the loved Bourne syntax.
>>> Oh believe me... I've had to _fight_ to keep any resemblance of
>>> teaching basic bash scripting in the linux course. At first students
>>> hate it, but the brilliant ones later on tell me that they actually
>>> picked up a lot of linux while bash scripting, instead of if we used
>>> python or something else. This makes me happy and works as intended!
>>> ;)
>>
>> No shell scripting? Okay---let's investigate a bit how the system
>> works. ``What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as
>> sweet.'' That's from a teacher I had called Juliet---she was pretty
>
> True. I'm currently discussing the course plans for the autumn, I think I
have a
> good chance at sneaking in some good old shell through the backdoor. Keep
your
> fingers crossed! =D
Fingers crossed. :D
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