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   From: huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com   
      
   Chris J Dixon  wrote in   
   news:bq58uj1aej757c1feh8dk7mst37t16bdik@4ax.com:   
      
   > Most of my computing is done on my desktop PC, but I have a   
   > laptop which is handy for occasional use, and also as a fallback   
   > in case of failures.   
   >   
   > My Lenovo Thinkpad T450, which I bought refurbished 5 years ago,   
   > now has a bulging removable battery pack, which has been taken to   
   > a safe place. Additionally, the fan is making noises, which I   
   > hope I have addressed by cleaning. It will run on the internal   
   > battery.   
   >   
   > It seems that Lenovo do not support Windows 11 on this machine,   
   > so its safe life is limited in any case. Apparently there are   
   > ways to get round this, but each new Windows update could   
   > introduce fresh issues.   
   >   
   > In this context, and accepting that I want to remain in the   
   > Windows environment, I am unsure that spending money on   
   > replacement parts is justifiable, and am considering a new   
   > laptop.   
   >   
   > My use is mainly MS office applications, no gaming, and I do not   
   > anticipate removing it from the home. Therefore I want something   
   > which is OK with Windows 11, and has appropriate capability.   
   > However, size, weight and battery life are much less important.   
   > Reasonable warranty is desirable.   
   >   
   > I would welcome any pointers and recommendations.   
   >   
   > Chris   
      
   I have a pair of EliteBook laptops running W7Pro.  W10Pro was available but   
   I preferred W7 as mor trustworthy.  The second is a backup.  They were   
   refurbs from a company that leased them and sold them.  I bought from a   
   private guy who bought the laptops and was selling them after refurbing   
   them.  Very powerful and very cheap.  Just use for email, news, and web.   
   No games.  One did need a new fan.   
      
   W7Pro is still supported to some degree.  They are reliable and are both on   
   their 13th year of continuous use.  Towers are easier to maintain forever.   
   If the web becomes unusable for some reason they will get linux installed.   
      
   Keep them clean and running if at all possible if they have hard drives.   
   E-drives will run forever.  Be careful of power surges and lightnign   
   strikes.   
      
   W10 has lots of spyware.  W11 is all spyware.  Just an opinion from an   
   experienced hacker.  Use ad blockers for the web.  Use a web brower that   
   isn't from Microsoft.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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