XPost: uk.d-i-y   
   From: g4ugm@dave.invalid   
      
   On 26/03/2025 19:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   > On 26/03/2025 17:34, Theo wrote:   
   >> FYI there was a typo in the uk.d-i-y in the newsgroup line of your post:   
   >>   
   >> Chris J Dixon  wrote:   
   >>> Most of my computing is done on my desktop PC, but I have a   
   >>> laptop which is handy for occasional use, and also as a fallback   
   >>> in case of failures.   
   >>>   
   >>> My Lenovo Thinkpad T450, which I bought refurbished 5 years ago,   
   >>> now has a bulging removable battery pack, which has been taken to   
   >>> a safe place. Additionally, the fan is making noises, which I   
   >>> hope I have addressed by cleaning. It will run on the internal   
   >>> battery.   
   >>>   
   >>> It seems that Lenovo do not support Windows 11 on this machine,   
   >>> so its safe life is limited in any case. Apparently there are   
   >>> ways to get round this, but each new Windows update could   
   >>> introduce fresh issues.   
   >>>   
   >>> In this context, and accepting that I want to remain in the   
   >>> Windows environment, I am unsure that spending money on   
   >>> replacement parts is justifiable, and am considering a new   
   >>> laptop.   
   >>>   
   >>> My use is mainly MS office applications, no gaming, and I do not   
   >>> anticipate removing it from the home. Therefore I want something   
   >>> which is OK with Windows 11, and has appropriate capability.   
   >>> However, size, weight and battery life are much less important.   
   >>> Reasonable warranty is desirable.   
   >>>   
   >>> I would welcome any pointers and recommendations.   
   >>>   
   >>> Chris   
      
   Its not Lenovo that don't support Windows/11 on that machine, it simply   
   does not meet the Microsoft minimum hardware requirements. The CPU is   
   too old I5 Gen 5 and it only has TPM 1.2. To be supported on Windows/11   
   you need an I5 Gen 8 CPU and TPM 2.0. Microsoft has set the bar for   
   Windows/11. There are many PCs from every manufacturer out there that in   
   terms of CPU Speed and RAM would run Windows/11, but don't meet the   
   security requirements above.   
      
   The oldest T-Series that supports Windows/11 is the T480 with the I5 Gen   
   8 processor. This is also the last T-Series with the dual battery. It is   
   missing a CD drive but I can't remember when I last used a CD and the   
   USB charger ports are delicate. consider a short patch lead or  magnetic   
   connector   
      
      
   >   
   > Well I have had pretty good results for MY needs with HP laptops   
   > BUT anything to run Windows 11 seems very expensive. Like £400   
   >   
      
   Its supply and demand. I would say most laptops which still work will   
   run Windows/10 laptops, but anything pre 2018 will probably have TPM 1.2   
   and/or non-supported CPUs so now have a fixed "end-of-life"...   
      
      
   > Whereas a Windows ten capable refurbished is under £100   
      
   Well yes , no one wants them....   
   .... you can get one for £330 with 1-year warrenty.   
      
      
   >   
   > Try 'laptops direct'   
   >   
   >   
      
   Also Tier-1, Newandusedlaptops4u, gigaRefurb, Morgan Computers   
      
   I usually buy via e-bay these days, but Amazon has them at similar   
   prices. Do check the revues...   
      
   Dave   
   G4UGM   
      
   Dave   
      
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