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   On Thu, 27 Mar 2025, John Rumm wrote:   
      
   > On 27/03/2025 09:49, D wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 27/03/2025 06:06, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 19:02:39 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Well I have had pretty good results for MY needs with HP laptops BUT   
   >>>>> anything to run Windows 11 seems very expensive. Like £400   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Whereas a Windows ten capable refurbished is under £100   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete,   
   >>>> unsupported software?   
   >>>   
   >>> I'd trust it to Linux.   
   >>> Actually that's MS bullshit.   
   >>> The greatest security risk from a laptop is leaving it on a train.   
   >>>   
   >>> If its 'mission critical' it doesn't go on a laptop. Period. Or you get   
   >>> sacked   
   >>> This isn't Donald Trumps administration, this is real life   
   >>   
   >> Also note that if you build around the constraints of crappy hardware with   
   >> technologies such as backups, clusters, active/active clusters etc. they   
   >> can live very well on crappy hardware.   
   >>   
   >> Of course this is just theoretical, and you collect your requirements, and   
   >> SLA:s towards your customers, and then make an informed decision.   
   >>   
   >> Since I have backups of my laptop, and could go to the store and buy a new   
   >> one in about 60 minutes, and do a restore of my company documents within   
   >> another 60 minutes, I in theory, have no problems with running my company   
   >> on "crappy" hardware.   
   >>   
   >> Due to convenience, I tend to run it on maximum 3-4 year old laptops, and   
   >> my SaaS product runs on refurbished servers in the cloud.   
   >   
   > You seem to be assuming that the only bad thing that might happen is the   
   > laptop loses your data, which as you identify a good backup regime will   
   > mitigate. However the bigger prise for many bad actors is persistent access   
   > to your device and data - something that becomes "easier" on unsupported   
   > platforms, and also something, if done well, you may not even notice.   
      
   That would be a software problem. I can run modern software on crappy   
   hardware. Yet another benefit. And no, I'm not in the cloak and dagger   
   business, so the threats I face are very, very mild.   
      
   I do have acquaintances in the cloak and dagger business though, and they   
   are all about avoiding as much as possible, tracking supply chains, buying   
   hw without mics and video etc.   
      
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