XPost: uk.d-i-y   
   From: tnp@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 02/04/2025 20:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:   
   > On 02/04/2025 19:31, Andrew wrote:   
   >> On 28/03/2025 12:23, Jeff Gaines wrote:   
   >>> On 28/03/2025 in message  John Rumm wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete,   
   >>>>>> unsupported software?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I use Windows 8.1 on all my machines that will run it because it   
   >>>>> allows me to download updates and install them when convenient to   
   >>>>> me. Why this facility doesn't exit on Win 10 goodness knows.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You do have some level of control on pro versions, and full control   
   >>>> on enterprise ones.   
   >>>   
   >>> I treat my computer as a tool so compare it with, say, a room I am   
   >>> decorating. At the end of the work day the brushes get cleaned or put   
   >>> in soak, the lids go back on the various containers and that's it.   
   >>>   
   >>> My main desktop is the same. Currently I have 5 documents open in   
   >>> UltraEdit, 4 instances of Visual Studio running, my own notepad app   
   >>> and my own programming toolbox all running. When I call it a day I   
   >>> turn the screen off. Along comes MSFT in the middle of the night and   
   >>> reboots. Most things will be saved, I have learnt my lesson from   
   >>> MSFT, but there is no way in the world I will remember everything I   
   >>> had open.   
   >>>   
   >>> I did consider Enterprise so I had control but the cost is   
   >>> prohibitive. I do have my "JGRunningProcesses" app running. It write   
   >>> a log every 30 minutes of everything that is running and doesn't auto   
   >>> start after shutdown. That means I can go through the last log if   
   >>> MSFT has done the dirty and set my workspace up again.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> I see you've been suckered by MSFT marketing bullshit :-)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Says the man running an OS that has not had any security patches   
   >>>> since January 10, 2023. :-)   
   >>>   
   >>> It still gets some sort of updates which it installs when I tell it   
   >>> to. As long as apps I wrote for Win98 continue to run I can be pretty   
   >>> sure the Windows code base hasn't change much!   
   >>>   
   >>> Don't forget Windows for warships is actually Windows 3.1 :-)   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Err, no.   
   >>   
   >> At the "Meet your navy" open day at Portsmouth in 2008 the   
   >> type 45 destroyer was running a more recent version of   
   >> Windows in the command and control centre (that was open   
   >> to the public).   
   >>   
   > I remember lots of comments (even before 2008) when one of HM's latest   
   > ships was said to be running Win 3.1.   
   > On inspection, it was evident that the software in question was actually   
   >   test software used as part of the "Setting to Work" process to get the   
   > systems talking to each other.  Nothing at all to do with the software   
   > used when operational.   
   >   
   > (At that time, I was using test software - on quite different hardware -   
   > which was DOS based.  If test software does the job, you don't bother to   
   > change it.)   
   >   
   Dos was an easy platform to code simple jobs for - direct access to   
   hardware, simple interrupt  system, and no nasty background tasks going on   
      
   Nothing wrong with it,   
      
   --   
   “Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of   
   other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"   
      
       -  John K Galbraith   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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