XPost: uk.d-i-y   
   From: fredxx@spam.invalid   
      
   On 02/04/2025 21:03, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   > On 02/04/2025 20:42, Sam Plusnet wrote:   
   >> On 02/04/2025 19:31, Andrew wrote:   
   >>> On 28/03/2025 12:23, Jeff Gaines wrote:   
   >>>> On 28/03/2025 in message  John Rumm   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete,   
   >>>>>>> unsupported software?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I use Windows 8.1 on all my machines that will run it because it   
   >>>>>> allows me to download updates and install them when convenient to   
   >>>>>> me. Why this facility doesn't exit on Win 10 goodness knows.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You do have some level of control on pro versions, and full control   
   >>>>> on enterprise ones.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I treat my computer as a tool so compare it with, say, a room I am   
   >>>> decorating. At the end of the work day the brushes get cleaned or   
   >>>> put in soak, the lids go back on the various containers and that's it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> My main desktop is the same. Currently I have 5 documents open in   
   >>>> UltraEdit, 4 instances of Visual Studio running, my own notepad app   
   >>>> and my own programming toolbox all running. When I call it a day I   
   >>>> turn the screen off. Along comes MSFT in the middle of the night and   
   >>>> reboots. Most things will be saved, I have learnt my lesson from   
   >>>> MSFT, but there is no way in the world I will remember everything I   
   >>>> had open.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I did consider Enterprise so I had control but the cost is   
   >>>> prohibitive. I do have my "JGRunningProcesses" app running. It write   
   >>>> a log every 30 minutes of everything that is running and doesn't   
   >>>> auto start after shutdown. That means I can go through the last log   
   >>>> if MSFT has done the dirty and set my workspace up again.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I see you've been suckered by MSFT marketing bullshit :-)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Says the man running an OS that has not had any security patches   
   >>>>> since January 10, 2023. :-)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It still gets some sort of updates which it installs when I tell it   
   >>>> to. As long as apps I wrote for Win98 continue to run I can be   
   >>>> pretty sure the Windows code base hasn't change much!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Don't forget Windows for warships is actually Windows 3.1 :-)   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Err, no.   
   >>>   
   >>> At the "Meet your navy" open day at Portsmouth in 2008 the   
   >>> type 45 destroyer was running a more recent version of   
   >>> Windows in the command and control centre (that was open   
   >>> to the public).   
   >>>   
   >> I remember lots of comments (even before 2008) when one of HM's latest   
   >> ships was said to be running Win 3.1.   
   >> On inspection, it was evident that the software in question was   
   >> actually   test software used as part of the "Setting to Work" process   
   >> to get the systems talking to each other.  Nothing at all to do with   
   >> the software used when operational.   
   >>   
   >> (At that time, I was using test software - on quite different hardware   
   >> - which was DOS based.  If test software does the job, you don't   
   >> bother to change it.)   
   >>   
   > Dos was an easy platform to code simple jobs for - direct access to   
   > hardware, simple interrupt  system, and no nasty background tasks going on   
   >   
   > Nothing wrong with it,   
      
   I suppose if you prefer to page 64k chunks in an out of a 1MB address   
   space, and only being able to run one application at a time, then it's   
   absolutely great.   
      
   Most of us have moved on, a very, very long time ago.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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