From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 24/02/2025 03:51, Retrograde wrote:   
   > Making a competitive browser is   
   > hard, and clearly requires a lot of people and a lot of time. Donations are   
   > fickle, nobody will pay for a browser,   
   Does the browser need to be changed much now?   
      
   Service providers need to provide apps, so:   
      
     (1) they do not need to give cookie popups   
     (2) they can certify and take responsibility for compatibility with   
   their server-side interfaces, because the users can't (not even by   
   commissioning their interaction devices with strong warranties).   
      
   So they could pay for whatever and the firefox developers don't need to   
   care. The rest of us only need good-old web (if only the informative   
   content still existed or could be found).   
      
   The big problem is providing for sandboxed installation at real-world   
   locations, so I can get the app direct at a bank location without   
   involving a 3rd party distributor who may control my activities or   
   shoe-horn themselves into a stronger position against me and my   
   preferred service providers.   
      
   Really, I want to go back to the 1990s game console interaction concept   
   using a wallet-sized card like a cartridge. Computing declarative UI   
   instructions and network messages in a credit-card format could be done   
   in the 1990s. small message encryption can be done now, surely? Let me   
   slot my bank card into my interaction device and get the bank app   
   on-screen without it having meaningful control or access to the device   
   and have my banking secure against all but infiltration of the   
   interaction device.   
      
   Aren't we even reaching the point where the card has the touchscreen and   
   needs only a battery and radio to be pressed against it so it can be the   
   whole app? If it's not a really important app, or it's just another   
   calendar and ticket buying app they can just become plugins to a   
   well-generalised app anyway.   
      
   The full turing-complete app is a huge problem, amazon is presenting   
   one-click buying for £2000 purchases as an up-sell on £0.00 product   
   pages in a web-format where buttons jump around the screen as pages load   
   and dangling USB cables click all over your screen while you sip your   
   tea so something's got to give to take browsers back away from the   
   trading coal-face.   
      
   --   
   Tristan Wibberley   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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