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   On 8/16/2025 2:13 PM, Rich wrote:   
   > InterLinked  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> I tried a local access number in my area, and connected at 31.2. And   
   >> sure enough, it appears to be resold GlobalPOPs. It doesn't look like   
   >> Dialup4Less has their own dial-up infrastructure.   
   >>   
   >> Do you mind sharing the specific access number you are using, and what   
   >> speeds you usually connect at? I wonder whether all of their access   
   >> numbers are deficient, or just some of them.   
   >   
   > Your connect speeds over POTS copper is going to be mostly always   
   > influenced by the "last mile wiring" (i.e., the copper from your home   
   > to the local exchange building).  So any "deficiency" is very likely to   
   > exist somewhere in that last bit of copper rather than in different ISP   
   > POP endpoints.   
   >   
   > Once your copper terminates at the exchange, the rest of the phone   
   > network's all digital, so the analog signals on your wires are   
   > digitized at that point anyway.   
      
   As I mentioned before, my phone service is over fiber ("POTS over   
   fiber", as Verizon calls it), so my copper loop is only a few feet long.   
   Like most phone people, I don't like fiber, but that's the way it is.   
      
   [Aside: The irony with fiber is that Verizon has cannibalized their   
   chances of me ever ordering their Internet service, since they refuse to   
   provide regulated voice and unregulated Internet on the same ONT. Not   
   that I would be interested in paying for it, but they try to upsell me   
   on it every time I call in, and two minutes later I have them admitting   
   that no, I can't order their Internet service without losing my phone   
   service (being converted to Digital Voice, which I have no interest in).]   
      
   I don't have an issue connecting to certain V.90 test numbers (not PPP   
   Internet), so I don't think it's a quality issue with my phone service.   
   Therefore, I believe GlobalPOPs is most likely the issue, but I'm trying   
   to gather more data to prove that, e.g. different access numbers,   
   different local loop types (fiber, copper, etc.)   
      
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