From: Nyssa@logicalinsight.net
InterLinked wrote:
> On 8/16/2025 8:49 AM, Nyssa wrote:
>> InterLinked wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/15/2025 8:54 AM, Nyssa wrote:
>>>> InterLinked wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/14/2025 8:19 AM, Nyssa wrote:
>>>>>> SH wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/08/2025 13:08, Nyssa wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rich wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In comp.misc, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Further to that, 34 years ago puts their start
>>>>>>>>>>> in 1991, before CD-ROM drives became popular in
>>>>>>>>>>> PCs. I think they were giving out floppy disks
>>>>>>>>>>> for those first few years.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody remember seeing an AOL floppy?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Definitely. Better than CDs because you could
>>>>>>>>>> just wipe and reuse them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object/nmah_1395721
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which I did for many an AOL 3.5" floppy. Not for
>>>>>>>>> anything valuable, but for a "copy file X from
>>>>>>>>> computer Y to computer Z" use they worked just
>>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The CDROM's were only useful to either join AOL
>>>>>>>>> (which was never going to happen) or to make
>>>>>>>>> garden scarecrows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I made coasters with them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nyssa, who believe it or not is still on dialup
>>>>>>>> (not AOL) and has been for almost 40 years (not the
>>>>>>>> same ISPs)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> given the fastest dial up modems are 56 kilobits, it
>>>>>>> must feel really slow viewing websites that rely on
>>>>>>> broadband to fling audio or video or
>>>>>>> Java/SHockwave/Flash at you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And downloading software must have taken days?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus my local (rural) phone lines are crap. I get
>>>>>> ~43Kbps on average. It was better when I lived in the
>>>>>> Big City.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I may ask, which ISP are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been doing some testing with several ISPs lately,
>>>>> all of whom seem to resell GlobalPOPs these days
>>>>> (including AOL it seems). The top speed I've gotten is
>>>>> 36000 a handful of times, and usually I get 31.2 or
>>>>> 33.6 - very difficult to get a V.90 connection
>>>>> anymore. They seem to have done some kind of
>>>>> concentration where they've cheaped out on their phone
>>>>> lines, doesn't seem to be real T1s anymore.
>>>>
>>>> There weren't many to choose from, and probably even
>>>> fewer now.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using one called Dialup4Less based somewhere out in
>>>> the Pactific Northwest. The price has doubled since I
>>>> signed up, but still a MUCH better value for me than
>>>> anything else offered around these parts.
>>>
>>> I tried a local access number in my area, and connected
>>> at 31.2. And sure enough, it appears to be resold
>>> GlobalPOPs. It doesn't look like Dialup4Less has their
>>> own dial-up infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Do you mind sharing the specific access number you are
>>> using, and what speeds you usually connect at? I wonder
>>> whether all of their access numbers are deficient, or
>>> just some of them.
>>
>> You can find a list of POPs on their website. I'm in the
>> 804 area code, if that helps.
>
> I pulled the list of access numbers from the site and
> pulled out all the ones in the 804 area code. There seem
> to be only five of them, and none of the numbers even
> works anymore (a lot of access number lists seem to
> include a fair number of stale numbers). Could you also
> share the prefix of the working number that you use?
Here are the exchanges I've got in my dialup list
for kppp:
926
451
991
518
415
I usually use the 991 ones since those are closest
to me.
HTH.
Nyssa, who is not happy that it's raining again today
since the grass needs mowing
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