From: huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com   
      
   Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=  wrote in   
   news:10ec126$3dipv$1@dont-email.me:   
      
   > On Tue, 4 Nov 2025 04:41:48 -0000 (UTC), David LaRue wrote:   
   >   
   >> If the tech builders weren't forced to use upgraded technology the   
   >> support could stay stable for many generations of products. Often it   
   >> was suggested/demanded by the developers because some tool in the   
   >> newer cycle eased the job of the developer.   
   >   
   > Even if the developers of the product didn’t want to use Windows 11,   
   > what are they supposed to do once Microsoft says it’s not going to   
   > support Windows 10 any more?   
      
   You first need to know what your products depend on in say Win 10.  Then   
   use only those Win 10 features or older that are supported going into Win   
   11.  Yes this becomes a pain after many generations but only if you depend   
   on the features of the OS.  If you look at Win 10 Development there are   
   features and programming methods still there from 3.1 and NT.  You   
   obviously don't need to go back that far.  Then structure your product   
   using only the chosen features for a while.   
      
   You need to decide what is more important going forward.  Windows 11 and   
   back really didn't add much.  Yes your tool chains evolved.  Can you   
   develop for the current Win 10 product and keep using it on 11/12/beyond?   
   If you can the existing product could be supported for a long time using   
   just Microsoft's and your existing tool chain and use case environment.   
      
   A little hint for you.  What do you really need that is in 11?  Could you   
   make something like that with your 10 tools?   
      
   I am using Win 7 Pro here at home and refuse to upgrade past that for my   
   own reasons.  Microsoft stopped supporting 7 years ago... yet I still get   
   daily updates from Microsoft for Defender.  All my development tool chains   
   still work for 7 and below.  When I really need to upgrade to a new   
   computer I could load it onto a VM and use the VM system on 11/12/Linux or   
   whatever I want.   
      
   All my employers since 2000 or so saw this as the only long term approach   
   for them.  They are all still doing it!   
      
   There are some things to plan for, like keeping the older VMs and support   
   hardware working.   
      
   Do you need to be tethered to Microsoft's price model forever?   
      
   Don't even get me started on Win 10's spyware.  Win 11 is 98% hackable all   
   the way through right now by script kiddies.  Nothing is secure or reliable   
   unless you plan for it and keep trying to fix problems before they happen   
   to real users.  Look at all the systems around the world that failed due to   
   the recent cloud outage?  Were you affected?  I didn't notice and had to   
   look for sites/products that were reported down just to see what was going   
   on.   
      
   If you were affected or your product was, has that problem already been   
   fixed for the next time it will happen?   
      
   Glad to meet you Lawrence!   
      
   Keep thinking of ways to improve your tools/products.  Keep your employers   
   out of the news.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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