From: jason_hindle@yahoo.com
On 18/11/2025 21:19, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
>Ben Collver wrote or quoted:
>>Why write code, the thinking went, when you could diagram it?
>
> There also are outright visual programming languages. See [1].
>
>>But even AI doesn't remove the core challenge of software
>>development: understanding what needs to be built.
>
> Yeah, see [2].
>
> Writing prompts for a chatbot /is/ programming. So, there still
> are "coders".
Writing prompts for a chatbot is specification. That probably explains why
opinions on using AIs as programming aids vary so much.
>
> Still, some things /have/ gotten easier. I have a reader and
> writer for PNG files in Python. But it did not handle palettes
> (technically, color type 3)! So I told the chatbot to add this.
> Both the reader (191 lines) and the writer (90 lines) ran
> correctly immediately. No need to debug! The three PNG files
> I just posted here (with just 34, 11, and 12 KBytes only)?
> They all were encoded with it! The last one with a palette.
>
> [1]
>
> .--------------------------------------------.
> | .---------------. |
> | | .----. | |
> | | ->| | | |
> .-------. | | | <= | -> | |
>[] --->| qsort |---> [] | | x ->| | | |
> '-------' | | '----' | |
> | '---------------' |
> | | |
> | v .---. |
> | .------. .-------. | | |
>.---------------. | xs -->| grep | ->| qsort | --->| | |
>| .---. | | '------' '-------' | j | |
>| x -->| | | .-------. | .------. | o | |
>| | : | -> |-->| qsort | ->| x --->| list | --------------->| i | --> |
>| xs ->| | | '-------' | '------' | n | |
>| '___' | | .------. .-------. | | |
>'---------------' | xs -->| grep | ->| qsort | --->| | |
> | '------' '-------' | | |
> | ^ '---' |
> | | |
> | .---------------. |
> | | .----. | |
> | | x ->| | | |
> | | | < | -> | |
> | | ->| | | |
> | | '----' | |
> | '---------------' |
> '--------------------------------------------'
>
> [2]
>
>|The hardest single part of building a software system is
>|deciding precisely what to build.
>Brooks, F.P. Jr., The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software
>Engineering, Addison Wesley, Reading, MA, 1995, Second Edition.
>
>
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