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|    Google AI Recipe Extinction Event (1/2)    |
|    16 Dec 25 15:20:48    |
      From: bencollver@tilde.pink              Google AI Recipe Extinction Event       =================================              AI Mode is mangling recipes by merging instructions from multiple       creators–-and causing them huge dips in ad traffic.              Aimee Levitt       Mon 15 Dec 2025 10.00 EST              This past March, when Google began rolling out its AI Mode search       capability, it began offering AI-generated recipes. The recipes were       not all that intelligent. The AI had taken elements of similar       recipes from multiple creators and Frankensteined them into something       barely recognizable. In one memorable case, the Google AI failed to       distinguish the satirical website the Onion from legitimate recipe       sites and advised users to cook with non-toxic glue.              Over the past few years, bloggers who have not secured their sites       behind a paywall have seen their carefully developed and tested       recipes show up, often without attribution and in a bastardized form,       in ChatGPT replies. They have seen dumbed-down versions of their       recipes in AI-assembled cookbooks available for digital downloads on       Etsy or on AI-built websites that bear a superficial resemblance to       an old-school human-written blog. Their photos and videos, meanwhile,       are repurposed in Facebook posts and Pinterest pins that link back to       this digital slop.              Recipe writers have no legal recourse because recipes generally are       not copyrightable. Although copyright protects published or recorded       work, they do not cover sets of instructions (although it can apply       to the particular wording of those instructions).              Without this essential IP, many food bloggers earn their living by       offering their work for free while using ads to make money. But now       they fear that casual users who rely on search engines or social       media to find a recipe for dinner will conflate their work with AI       slop and stop trusting online recipe sites altogether.              "There are a lot of people that are scared to even talk about what's       going on because it is their livelihood," says Jim Delmage who, with       his wife, Tara, runs the blog and YouTube channel Sip and Feast.              Matt Rodbard, the founder and editor-in-chief of the website Taste,       is even more pessimistic. Taste used to publish recipes more       frequently, but now it mostly focuses on journalism and a podcast       (which Rodbard hosts). "For websites that depend on the advertising       model," he says, "I think this is an extinction event in many ways."              The holiday season is traditionally when food bloggers earn most of       their ad revenue. For many, this year has been slower than usual. One       blogger, Carrie Forrest of Clean Eating Kitchen, told Bloomberg that       in the past two years, she has lost 80% of her traffic.              Others, like Delmage and Karen Tedesco, the author of the blog       Familystyle Food, say their numbers, and ad revenue, have remained       steady--so far. They attribute this to focusing their energies less       on trying to game the search engines than on the long-term goal of       attracting regular followers--and, in Delmage's case, viewers.              Tedesco's strategy has been to create recipes that rely on her       experience and technical knowhow honed by years in restaurant       kitchens and as a personal chef. Her Italian meatball recipe, for       example, based on her mother's, includes advice about which meat to       use, an explanation of why milk-soaked breadcrumbs are essential for       texture, and a dozen process photos and a video.              But she is still worried about the potential impact of AI. When she       recently did a Google search for "Italian meatballs", Familystyle       Food appeared as the top result. Then she switched to AI Mode. There,       she found the recipe had been Frankensteined--or "synthesized" as       Gemini put it--into a new recipe with nine other sources (including       Sip and Feast and a Washington Post recipe for Greek meatballs). The       AI-generated recipe was little more than a list of ingredients and       six basic steps with none of the details that make Tedesco's recipe       unique.              AI Mode linked to all 10 recipes, including Tedesco's, but, she says,       "I don't think many people are actually clicking on the source links.       At this point, they're absolutely trusting in the results that are       getting thrown in their faces."              Other bloggers have seen a more definite impact on their viewership.       Adam Gallagher, who runs Inspired Taste with his wife, Joanne, and       who has become an outspoken critic of AI on social media, told the       podcast Marketing O'Clock that since spring, he has noticed that       while the number of times viewers saw links to the site on Google has       increased, the number of actual site visitors has decreased. This       indicates, to him, that users are satisfied with the search engine's       AI interpretation of Inspired Taste's recipes.              After the Gallaghers posted about the discrepancy on X and Instagram,       a number of readers replied to say they had not realized there was a       difference between the recipes on the blog and the version that       showed up in Google searches. Perhaps they had also appreciated the       convenience of not having to click on another website, especially       when Google's page design was so clean and uncluttered.              Rodbard acknowledges that many food blogs have gotten ugly and       overloaded with ads, which has exacerbated the problem. "Ad tech on       these recipe blogs has gotten so bad, so many pop-up windows and so       much crashing, we kind of lost as publishers," he says.              According to Tom Critchlow, the EVP of audience growth at Raptive, a       media company that works with many food bloggers to find advertisers,       it isn't ads that are driving viewers away. It's Google itself, with       its changes to the algorithm and now with AI Mode, that's making the       sites harder to find.              There is some hope though: a survey of 3,000 US adults commissioned       by Raptive showed that the more interaction people had with AI, the       less they wanted to engage with it, and nearly half the respondents       rated AI content less trustworthy than content made by a human.              But unless the public rebels against AI Mode, there is only so much       bloggers can do. They can block OpenAI's training crawler, which       gathers information that ChatGPT uses to create content, including       its own recipe generator, but theyare not necessarily willing to make       themselves invisible to web searches; as Delmage puts it: "You can't       bite the hand that feeds you."              There is also the option of moving over to a subscription model, such       as Substack or Patreon, and keeping the recipes behind a paywall, but       both Tedesco and Delmage point out that the most successful       Substackers, like Caroline Chambers or David Lebovitz, came to the       platform with much more substantial followings than they have. "If I       were to give up my website or even try to go over to Substack, I       would be broke," Tedesco says.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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