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   Computer Nerd Kev to Ben Collver   
   Re: Fallacies Advocating Software Bloat   
   23 Dec 25 08:01:22   
   
   From: not@telling.you.invalid   
      
   Ben Collver  wrote:   
   > On 2025-12-22, Computer Nerd Kev  wrote:   
   >> At least so far as the first argument goes, it definitely reflects   
   >> the attitude of some Linux kernel developers:   
   >   
   > Regarding power usage it's fairly simple:   
   >   
   > Older computers had smaller wattage power supplies, and the typical   
   > usage pattern was to power down when you weren't using it.   
      
   Some faster modern processors designed for portable or embedded use   
   are very energy efficient too, but people won't use them because   
   they say even they're too slow. Even the Raspberry Pis have become   
   so power hungry that a cooling fan is strongly recommended for the   
   newer models (besides Zero and Pico). It's all very silly IMHO.   
      
   > UPS battery backup power can be educational.  I seem to recall that   
   > the CRTs would drain the batteries faster than the LCDs did, which   
   > contradicts one of the arguments in the original article.   
      
   Comparing wattage ratings on TVs I've noticed the trend has been   
   that while there are savings in watts/display-area with new LCD/LED   
   tech, they tend to be offset by people choosing to increase the   
   display area, for equal or greater power consumption overall. If   
   software forces the increase in display area by designing user   
   interfaces that don't work on smaller displays, he might have a   
   point about the same issue with computer monitors. Mind you I can   
   still find/use software that works fine on small displays, so I   
   don't agree that users have no choice about that.   
      
   > On the other hand, power usage is only the tip of the iceberg in terms   
   > of ecological footprint.  I have no idea about the comparative cost of   
   > manufacture, nor the comparative load of toxic materials.  Considering   
   > these factors it would make sense to extend the service life.   
      
   Well I'm coming to you from behind a CRT right now!   
      
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