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   Wally J to nospam   
   Re: How to move app from old phone to ne   
   02 Aug 23 15:59:13   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: walterjones@invalid.nospam   
      
   nospam  wrote   
      
   >>  On the iPhone you can't   
   >> "transfer" apps that are no longer available on the App Store.   
   >   
   > another false claim from you.   
      
   Steve is correct that Apple's restrictive walled garden prevents this.   
   For whatever reason, nospam is either ignorant, or a liar. Pick one.   
      
   I'm not sure why nospam feels the need to lie about the walled garden.   
   a. Steve is correct.   
   b. Nospam is either ignorant or a liar (but in reality, he's a liar).   
      
   The iPhone is horribly brain dead when it comes to doing the very many   
   rather useful things you can do with a free app's APK on Android.   
      
   For whatever reason, nospam is lying.   
   The fact is Steve is correct.   
      
   Android _never_ has to make a backup in order to reuse an app on any other   
   Android phone. Only iOS has to make that backup before you can re-use it.   
      
   The reason is that with Android, the backup is completely automatic!   
   It's already there.   
      
   And, if you wanted to, you can save _every_ APK version ever installed.   
   That way you can re-install any free app on any Android in the world.   
      
   There is no chance in hell of iOS being able to do that.   
   All because of the walled-garden restrictions on IPAs.   
      
   For Android, it's any phone - just only Android's registered to you.   
   (In fact, only IOS _requires_ the username to be a registered component!)   
      
   The only way on an iPhone you will ever get the same app version that you   
   want is if you _saved_ that app version during a backup (e.g., iTunes).   
      
   If you haven't expressly saved that app version during your own personal   
   backup, then you're _never_ going to get that app onto your new device.   
      
   Worse... much worse in fact... even if you did save that app version during   
   a backup - Apple has coded your unique Apple ID into _every_ app so if you   
   wanted to put the app on another device with a different Apple ID, you   
   can't (family plans accepted).   
      
   This is so freaking restrictive that a typical Android user would be aghast   
   if they knew how horrible it is to re-install IPAs from the iPhone.   
      
   For one, iOS can't autosave every IPA upon intallation. Android does.   
   For another, iOS can't extract an IPA after installation. Android can.   
   For yet another, iOS can't put that (free) app on any device. Android can.   
      
   The most restrictive problem with the iPhone is that if the app no longer   
   exists in the app store (in any version or in the version you like best),   
   and if you didn't already make a backup of that IPA - you're dead.   
      
   With Android, you're not.   
      
   In summary, for whatever reason, nospam lied as Steve is correct.   
   Note that both Steve and I use both platforms daily. Nospam does not.   
      
   It's obvious not only does nospam know nothing about Android, but since   
   he's wrong so many times about iOS, he's either ignorant of it, or a liar.   
      
   Pick one.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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