XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system   
   From: walterjones@invalid.nospam   
      
   Alan Browne  wrote   
      
   >> All I'm saying is the truth about the iPhone, which, for the TOPIC of   
   >> moving an app from one phone to another, is completely brain dead for iOS.   
   >   
   > I don't accept a model where an app that is potentially compromised   
   > ("infected") on one device be blindly copied to another.   
      
   I get it that you're claiming "malware" on Android (which is easily   
   avoided), but at the same time you forget the truth that your beloved   
   iPhone has twice as many zero-day zero-click holes & a whopping ten times   
   as many actual exploits.   
      
   Which would you rather have?   
   a. The least secure phone OS in history - which is exploited the most, or,   
   b. A secure OS that you have the choice of which apps you wish to install.   
      
   Pick one.   
      
   > Further, the use case you promote is (as you well know) a cherry picked   
   > edge case that you run up the flagpole, but is in reality nothing most   
   > people do on Android.   
      
   It's not an edge case to want to move apps from one phone to another.   
      
   > A real life case in point, my SO's son recently bought a new Android   
   > phone and sat there _downloading_ new copies of his various apps from   
   > Google Play and some other site.  Then he sent his data over from his   
   > old phone.  He is not a computer whiz of any kind and represents the   
   > more common smartphone user: just wants a smartphone that does x as   
   > simply and reliably as possible.   
      
   Google is usually what people are using when they move their "data".   
      
   > I buy a new iPhone every 5 years (possibly 6 or more with the current   
   > phone doing so well), so I really prefer a clean start in everything (as   
   > I do with my computers whether at home or at work).   
      
   Nothing wrong with a "clean start", but how are you going to put on the new   
   phone the apps & versions you liked which are no longer in the app store?   
      
   > But you do you, which appears to be cherry picking all day long.   
      
   It's not cherry picking to do what every operating system _except iOS_   
   does, and, in fact, your argument agrees iOS is a toy operating system.   
      
   Android...   
   a. Natively backs up the APK to the phone for _every_ app automatically.   
   b. Backs up the APK for every app _version_ automatically (off by default).   
   c. Re-installs free APKs to _any_ phone in the world (not just your ID!).   
   d. If you have sdslots, you can pop it out of phone 1 & put it in phone 2.   
   e. You can then re-install every app simply by tapping on the sdcard APK.   
   f. Everything goes in the EXACT folder and exact position as it was before.   
   g. You can list all apps & their URLs to an editable text file if desired.   
   h. You can mail that list to anyone and they can install the same apps.   
   i. Simply by tapping on the links because the output is a normal HTML file.   
      
   iOS can't.   
      
   Your defense is "nobody wants that" and "it's not needed" to that truth.   
      
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