XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2023-09-09 09:31, Wally J wrote:   
   > badgolferman  wrote   
   >   
   >>> I think what you may mean by a "truce" is for me to be "civil" with   
   >>> them when they lie and for them to be civil with me when I tell them   
   >>> the truth.   
   >>   
   >> I agree that civility is in short supply in this group.   
   >   
   > Hi badgolferman,   
   >   
   > I realize you're asking the adults how to handle the children, where what   
   > you need to do, is ask the children why they lie about Apple iOS support.   
   >   
   > Their brazen lies (for years!) is the cause of the problem we speak of.   
   > Not the effect.   
   >   
   >> The question is who is willing to break the cycle of brazen   
   >> character attacks and treat others as they would want to be treated.   
   >   
   > You need to understand this "cycle" starts with iKooks brazenly lying that   
   > Apple fully supports older releases is the "cause" (it's not the effect).   
   >   
   >>   Only an adult could do that.   
   >   
   > As an adult, you're supposed to concentrate on cause before effect.   
   >   
   > The cause is the iKooks lie whenever they see the truth posted about Apple.   
   > You need to fix the cause.   
   >   
   >   The cause is the iKooks brazenly lie about Apple support on this ng.   
   >   
   >> Who wants to be an adult and set an example?   
   >   
   > You need to focus on the cause of the problem you wish to fix - not on the   
   > resulting effect.   
   >   
   > The cause is what you will get when you open a thread asking this question.   
   >    *How many iOS releases does Apple say Apple fully supports?*   
      
   "children"; "children"; "iKooks"; "iKooks"; "iKooks"   
      
   So...   
      
   ...asked to behave as a civil adult, that is your response.   
      
   And to be clear, NO:   
      
   The essential question is NOT:   
      
   "How many iOS releases does Apple say Apple fully supports?"   
      
   The actual essential question is:   
      
   "How far back are the DEVICES fully supported?"   
      
   Adults would I'm sure agree that if any company continued to support   
   every device they've ever made on their most current OS, then it doesn't   
   matter whether or not they continue to provide updates of any kind to   
   older OS versions.   
      
   Apple is far from supporting every device, but the current version of   
   iOS  supports:   
      
   Back to the iPhone 8 released 6 years ago.   
      
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