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   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: jollyroger@pobox.com   
      
   On 2023-10-01, Dorper  wrote:   
   > On Oct 1, 2023, Alan Browne wrote   
   > (in article ):   
   >   
   >> On 2023-10-01 17:38, Alan wrote:   
   >> > On 2023-10-01 14:13, Wally J wrote:   
   >> > > Jolly Roger  wrote   
   >> > >   
   >> > > > No, you very clearly haven't.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Well, both badgolferman and I have said we've worked on military   
   >> > > grade software for decades but you can choose to disbelieve what   
   >> > > we say.   
   >> >   
   >> > That's convenient, Clown...   
   >> >   
   >> > ...because we do so choose.   
   >>   
   >> Using terms like "military grade software" is a red flag.   
   >>   
   >> There is a way to say what he desperately wants to convey but since   
   >> he said it the way he said it we know it is poppycock (at best).   
   >   
   > Military Grade software does exist. VHDL (MIL-STD-454N) and Ada   
   > (MIL-STD-1815) are examples. But just because something is military   
   > grade doesn't mean it is good. Military grade means it is the cheapest   
   > made while still meeting minimum contract specifications.   
      
   The reason Arlen (Wally) is mentioning military grade software is   
   because he desperately wants to deflect from the original point which is   
   that Apple deploys complex system and app software to hundreds of   
   millions of heterogeneous devices regularly, where it is not uncommon   
   for bugs that affect numerous devices (albeit a relatively small number   
   of the total deployment base) to be found after release. Arlen and   
   other regular trolls in the Apple newsgroups repeatedly claim that the   
   fact that bugs exist in Apple software supposedly means "Apple never   
   tests their software" (yes, that's a direct quote), which is an   
   idiotic and  baseless claim and completely ignores that Apple's   
   software teams, like many other large software teams, hold and manage   
   bug databases and go through traditional alpha and beta testing   
   phases, including public betas. They claim to know all about software   
   development, but turn around and claim bugs shouldn't exist.  And this   
   says way more about them than Apple.   
      
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