XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: walterjones@invalid.nospam   
      
   Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks who are   
   very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*).   
      
   It starts out with a normal observation of fact that Apple never tells you.   
      
    Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 18:09:11 -0800   
    Subject: Re: Zero percent of current iPhones have basic hardware features   
   that over 75% of modern Android models have   
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
    From: John    
    Message-ID: <4PicncL5iudaIsf4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>   
      
    One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.   
    Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15   
    Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy an   
    Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music high   
    fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with Apple   
    from an Apple fan.   
      
   Then, after the iKooks deny all facts that they're unaware of, he patiently   
   tries to re-explain, as if the iKooks own normal adult cognitive skills.   
      
    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 12:57:50 -0800   
    From: John    
    Message-ID:    
      
    Apple devices like iPhone 15 do not support codecs like AptxHD   
    which ARE REQUIRED for maximum performance with headphones while   
    playing back 192/24 bit ALAC which Apple Music provides.   
    My FIIO player does support that with Apple Music and sounds better.   
    A lot.   
      
   The iKooks continue to build strawmen that say essentially that no facts   
   can exist that they, themselves, are ignorant of - to which he replies...   
      
    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 13:02:42 -0800   
    From: John    
    Message-ID:    
      
    Further more intelligent people realize the bluetooth codec Apple uses   
    to connect to its devices is just plain crude.   Airpods Max do not   
    support AptXHD or other advanced codecs and sound like crap compared to   
    capable headphones like B and W PX8s.   Its obvious Alan has absolutely   
    ZERO audio background.   
      
   And... as the iKooks continue to deny that facts can exist that Apple   
   didn't advertise as facts (hence, they're completely unaware of them),   
   he patiently keeps trying to explain to these ignorant iKooks...   
      
    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:27:22 -0800   
    From: John    
    Message-ID:    
      
    I am referring to the ability to get lossless support to the headphones.   
      
    Apple codecs do NOT support transfer of lossless.   
    Apple provides only a crude bluetooth capability.   
      
    To get true high fidelity to the headphones requires AptX HD or   
    something better OTHER than Apples Bluetooth.   
      
    My FIIO player can take the lossless 192/24 bit from Apple Music   
    and get it LOSSLESSLY to the the headphones.   
    Which are something other than Apple products which do not support it.   
      
   And... at some point, he was forced to dumb down the message to the   
   child-like level of the iKooks - but even that failed to penetrate...   
      
    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:52:46 -0800   
    From: John    
    Message-ID:    
      
    The iphone DOES NOT support lossless music because it has no way   
    to get audio to the headphones by something other than lossy bluetooth.   
      
   And... he dumbed it again and again and again, assuming the iKooks just   
   didn't understand (not realizing the iKooks claim that every fact they   
   don't like, can't possibly be a fact - merely because they don't like it).   
      
    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:29:22 -0800   
    From: John    
    Message-ID:    
      
    Prove Apple provides something other than lossy Bluetooth as a way to   
    get wireless audio to headphones.   You cannot.  Android products do.   
      
   No matter how many times he says a fact, the iKooks deny it.   
      
    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:51:05 -0800   
    From: John    
    Message-ID:    
      
    It is completely accurate.  Apple Music supports 192/24 bit but Apple   
    products like iPhone and Airpods Max do not support it.  As the iPhone   
    uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external headphones.   
    Completely accurate statement and easily understandable   
    unless one is an idiot.   
      
   You should see the childish fabricated excuses the iKooks responded with.   
   Why?   
      
   Because iKooks hate all facts about Apple products.   
      
   Why all facts?   
   Because any fact about Apple product is something they've never seen.   
      
   Why not?   
   Because iKooks only get their "information" from Apple advertisements.   
      
   One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris Schram   
   saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply because   
   they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware technology.   
   --   
   The problem with iKooks is that they hate all facts about Apple products.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)