XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.privacy   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Andrew  wrote:   
   > Chris wrote on Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:23:08 -0000 (UTC) :   
   >   
   >>> Bullshit. Google & Samsung have been five years published for a while.   
   >>   
   >> Nope. Google published theirs in Oct/Nov last year and Samsung earlier this   
   >> year.   
   >   
   > I feel your frantic desperation to deny what the recently published   
   > statements from Apple/Google/Samsung promise (all of which came out at the   
   > same time due to EU requirements) - but you have to accept the facts.   
   >   
   > Only recently did the EU force OEMs to state the promised full support   
   > lifetime of their operating systems, which is when they published this:   
   > 1. Apple === 5 years (up to 1 release)   
      
   Actually, using the same definition as Google/Samsung, that's up to 5   
   releases. Apple releases a new ios every year so five years of support will   
   provide 5 supported releases.   
      
   > 2. Google === 7 years (up to 7 releases)   
   > 3. Samsung === 7 years (up to 7 releases)   
   >   
   > Trust me that I understand how desperate you are to deny all facts about   
   > Apple products that you're ignorant of & hence hate - but it's a fact.   
   >   
   >>> Plus that includes *multiple* releases   
   >>   
   >> Over the seven years, yes, but there's no mention of  *concurrent* support   
   >> for multiple releases. I'd be very, very surprised that they will support   
   >> six versions of the OS at the same thing.   
   >   
   > Again, trust me that I understand why you're so desperate to shore up your   
   > crumbling foundation that you felt all along Apple support was the best.   
   >   
   > Not the worst (which is what it is - when you look at they actual facts).   
   >   
   > Yes. I understand your concern, but rest assured, for my free Samsung   
   > Galaxy A32-5G for example (which is on 13 but was on 12 and 11 prior to   
   > that), they have *always* fully supported multiple concurrent releases.   
      
   Prove it. If they're fully supported, by your definition, they should have   
   received the same number of patches in the last nine months and covered the   
   same CVEs.   
      
   > In addition, Microsoft has also clearly fully supported multiple concurrent   
   > releases (e.g., both Windows 11 and Windows 10 are fully supported today).   
   >   
   > While your concern is valid, if we simply compare Microsoft to Apple for   
   > the PC, it's patently obvious M$ full support is far better than Apple's.   
      
   Really? How many global breaches that have affected many multibillion orgs   
   has windows been responsible for over the last 10 years?   
      
   Then compare with macOS.   
      
   I'll wait.   
      
   >>> (whereas Apple only fully supports a   
   >>> single release   
   >>   
   >> Incorrect. Over the course of the lifetime of phone it gets multiple fully   
   >> supported releases. Typically 5 or 6.   
   >>   
   >> Just like google/samsung's promise.   
   >   
   > Hell, I'm a sensible logical reasonable well-educated intelligent person   
   > Chris, so I get your point that while Appel clearly has never   
   > simultaneously fully supported more than one release at a time - you're   
   > concerned that maybe the (longer) Google/Samsung promise is similar.   
   >   
   > I agree with you that we need to see it in writing, since marketing is   
   > rather clever at leading uneducated unintelligent people astray.   
   >   
   > So let's leave that as an open question to be resolved in the future.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Plus Google has been updating *all Android phones* with Android 10 and   
   >>> above over the Internet for the two dozen core operating system modules.   
   >>   
   >> Meaningless. That isn't "full" support as you love to shout about.   
   >   
   > Again, I am eminently logical such that I sympathize with your emotional   
   > concerns that fixing all known bugs monthly in dozens of core packages   
   > found in billions of Android 10 devices around the world from many OEMs is   
   > of no importance to you as an Apple user (because Apple doesn't do that).   
      
   The point you're missing is that if android only updates a select handful   
   of services and leaves the remainder unpatched and vulnerable then that's   
   not a fully supported OS. And is meaningless in terms of security.   
      
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