XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Tweed  wrote:   
   > Bill Powell  wrote:   
   >> Apple should be able to make any connector it wants to make.   
   >> Even one which is designed specifically to prevent interaction.   
   >>   
   >> If people would just stick only to Apple products, they'd be fine   
   >> as there's no need for interoperability if you buy only Apple product.   
   >>   
   >> As Tim Cook openly said, "Buy your mom an iPhone" if you want your device   
   >> to work with another company's products. It's all Apple around here.   
   >>   
   >> So it shouldn't matter if nobody else uses Apple's connector.   
   >> It's a free and openly competitive world market, isn't it?   
   >>   
   >   
   > Thing is, Apple didn’t even have inter operability between its own   
   > products.   
      
   Agree. And I've said this before on here.   
      
   Apple didn't transition to USB-C from USB-A well or consistently. When Macs   
   lost USB-A ports phones should have gone the same way shortly after.   
      
   What happened instead is that Apple bundled phones with USB-A - lightning   
   charges for years without an ability to charge your phone with your Mac. In   
   all that time they sold billions of phones with USB-A chargers.   
      
   Then, when they transitioned to USB-C, only at one end of the cable, they   
   also removed the charger (apart from ones model). So forced everyone to buy   
   chargers.   
      
   > MacBooks have had USB-C for years (you can’t push enough power   
   > through a Lightning connector) So you couldn’t use your Mac charger to   
   > charge your Lightning connector iPhone or iPad or ear phones. Now you can.   
   > I’d understand reluctance to move to usb-c if there were any significant   
   > technical downsides, but I can’t see any. It supports a wider range of   
   > charge voltages than Lightning, has a more robust connector, (though some   
   > disagree about this) and supports a much wider range of protocols including   
   > high speed video. Lightning was a much better technical and mechanical   
   > solution than micro USB, but it is now technically and commercially   
   > obsolete.   
      
   Agree. Lightning should have died 3-4 years ago.   
      
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