XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: java@evij.com.invalid   
      
   On 2024-09-15 16:19, Alan Browne wrote:   
   >   
   > On 2024-09-14 13:00, Java Jive wrote:   
   >>   
   >> Alan Browne's false claim implied that Apple   
   >> were already complying at the time that the legislation made   
   >> compliance compulsory, but in fact they were not, which is exactly WHY   
   >> the legislation made compliance compulsory!   
   >   
   > That is *not* what I said.  Apple had no intention of putting USB-C on   
   > the iPhone 15 - but were forced by EU regs.  Result: more e-waste.   
      
   What you actually said was this:   
      
   On 2024-09-14 16:26, Alan Browne wrote:   
    >   
    > The European USB-C fiasco just creates more e-waste.   
      
   Nonsense, it is designed to do exactly the opposite by making the   
   charging arrangements of all portable devices sold in the EU the same.   
      
    > Apple, in its own good time, would have brought USB-C to iPhone, etc.   
    > Indeed, the newest iPhone would likely have been the launch USB-C   
    > iPhone.  Instead the EU forced Apple to go a year early.   
      
   Again, nonsense.  As previously linked, Apple had already had more than   
   10 years' worth of voluntary guidelines to bring their products into   
   compliance, yet still had not done so.   
      
    > All this "decision" does is create early e-waste of lightning   
    > connectors and some wall-warts.   
      
   No, the e-waste was created by manufacturers such as Apple refusing to   
   comply with the guidelines in a timely manner, thus forcing the EU to   
   make them compulsory.   
      
    > Government over regulating.  EU!   
      
   Nonsense, this is just propaganda; examine again the link I provided   
   previously  -  the majority for the vote in the EU Parliament to enact   
   this legislation was overwhelming.   
      
   > Apple *was* already putting USB-C on various other products including an   
   > iPad I bought several years prior.   
      
   Some, yes, but even after more than a decade by no means all, and that   
   was the problem which persuaded the EU to act more decisively.   
      
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