XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Tweed  wrote:   
   > Chris  wrote:   
   >> Tweed  wrote:   
   >>> Bill Powell  wrote:   
   >>>> Apple should be able to make any connector it wants to make.   
   >>>> Even one which is designed specifically to prevent interaction.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If people would just stick only to Apple products, they'd be fine   
   >>>> as there's no need for interoperability if you buy only Apple product.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As Tim Cook openly said, "Buy your mom an iPhone" if you want your device   
   >>>> to work with another company's products. It's all Apple around here.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So it shouldn't matter if nobody else uses Apple's connector.   
   >>>> It's a free and openly competitive world market, isn't it?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Thing is, Apple didn’t even have inter operability between its own   
   >>> products.   
   >>   
   >> Agree. And I've said this before on here.   
   >>   
   >> Apple didn't transition to USB-C from USB-A well or consistently. When Macs   
   >> lost USB-A ports phones should have gone the same way shortly after.   
   >>   
   >> What happened instead is that Apple bundled phones with USB-A - lightning   
   >> charges for years without an ability to charge your phone with your Mac. In   
   >> all that time they sold billions of phones with USB-A chargers.   
   >>   
   >> Then, when they transitioned to USB-C, only at one end of the cable, they   
   >> also removed the charger (apart from ones model). So forced everyone to buy   
   >> chargers.   
   >>   
   >>> MacBooks have had USB-C for years (you can’t push enough power   
   >>> through a Lightning connector) So you couldn’t use your Mac charger to   
   >>> charge your Lightning connector iPhone or iPad or ear phones. Now you can.   
   >>> I’d understand reluctance to move to usb-c if there were any significant   
   >>> technical downsides, but I can’t see any. It supports a wider range of   
   >>> charge voltages than Lightning, has a more robust connector, (though some   
   >>> disagree about this) and supports a much wider range of protocols including   
   >>> high speed video. Lightning was a much better technical and mechanical   
   >>> solution than micro USB, but it is now technically and commercially   
   >>> obsolete.   
   >>   
   >> Agree. Lightning should have died 3-4 years ago.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > I wonder if Covid and the semi conductor shortage had anything to do with   
   > Lightning hanging on longer than it should? All manufacturers in all   
   > electronics sectors had supply problems, mainly with the dull low value   
   > devices - such as usb and power supervisory chips. As Apple had a monopoly   
   > with Lightning in phones perhaps they had fewer problems getting hold of   
   > these parts. Just speculating.   
      
   I guess that's possible. Not sure why lightning parts would be more   
   sourceable than the more ubiquitous USB, though?   
      
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