XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.privacy   
   From: thomas.e.elam@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/18/2024 6:42 PM, Andrews wrote:   
   > Andrews wrote on Sun, 17 Nov 2024 03:55:48 -0000 (UTC) :   
   >   
   >> Betcha the Apple trolls don't know that secret.   
   >   
   > It turns out that it's not possible to create a new iCloud account without   
   > calling Apple personally and giving them your phone number to verify.   
   >   
   > Not if there is already an iCloud account set up with your Android phone.   
   > It's impossible to do it from your iPad device. You must talk to Apple.   
   >   
   > And then you must identify yourself to Apple's satisfaction.   
   > Just to set up an iCloud account on the iPad.   
   >   
   > Which proves there is no privacy with Apple products. None.   
   > No other operating system vendor has that privacy robbing requirement.   
   >   
   > Not Google. Not Microsoft. Nobody.   
   > Just Apple.   
   >   
   > All to make their walled-garden work.   
   > That is, you trade your privacy to get the walled garden to work.   
   >   
   > Great deal.   
   > For Apple.   
   >   
   > What *they* do, is they set up the Apple account on their side.   
   > This can only happen if you call them & identify yourself to them.   
   >   
   > Only *after* Apple creates the iCloud account, can you then set it up.   
   > Even after they've created the iCloud account over the phone, they still   
   > require your phone number to verify that iCloud account on the iPad.   
   >   
   > The trick is you can't do it with their iOS system prompts.   
   > Nope. Won't work.   
   >   
   > You *must* do it through the email app.   
   > Go figure.   
   >   
   > It's Apple so it doesn't have to make any sense.   
   >   
   > In the end, you *can* create a new iCloud account but you have to trade   
   > your privacy to do it with Apple products.   
   >   
   > Apple brazenly lies about privacy.   
   > There is no privacy on Apple products.   
   >   
   > Proof.   
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   And all that is total bullshit.   
      
   Apple does not ask for   
      
   SSN, Medicare ID, date of birth, address, etc.   
      
   What evidence do you have that providing Apple a phone number   
   compromises your privacy? What evidence that the phone number   
   compromises anything?   
      
   You never answer my questions. You don't have answers.   
      
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