XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com   
      
   Alan wrote:   
      
   >On 2025-04-13 05:46, badgolferman wrote:   
   >>Chris wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>badgolferman wrote:   
   >>>>Chris wrote:   
   >>>>>badgolferman wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from   
   >>>>>>MaaS360 which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also   
   >>>>>>heavily encouraging us to store ALL our documents on   
   >>>>>>OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So   
   >>>>>>far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies   
   >>>>>>on Sharepoint for my colleagues to use in case I get hit   
   >>>>>>by a bus.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone.   
   >>>>>The bus factor is an important consideration for an   
   >>>>>organisation.   
   >>>>>I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier   
   >>>>>for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on   
   >>>>the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or   
   >>>>locked up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make   
   >>>>sense?   
   >>>   
   >>>Not really.   
   >>>   
   >>>I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works   
   >>>fine. You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to   
   >>>hardware loss or failure - than using cloud resources.   
   >>>   
   >>>Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can   
   >>>always go back to a working version due to the in-built history.   
   >>   
   >>Well, I disagree with you. Most of my work documents are Excel   
   >>files and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you   
   >>want to work on them. Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one   
   >>thing, but leaving my working versions there is something I'm   
   >>unwilling to do.   
   >   
   >I'm using Excel with online files all the time and never have a   
   >problem.   
      
   Using a PC bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint. Select a cell with   
   text in it. Press F2 on your keyboard to enable editing within the   
   cell. Press Insert on your keyboard to enable typeover of the   
   characters. That won't work on Sharepoint, but it works on the PC   
   application. I typeover individual characters in cells all the time   
   and want the original number visible while I'm editing that cell. It's   
   cumbersome to use Delete and Backspace keys when the Insert key does   
   exactly what I want.   
      
   Another annoying thing is text size of the whole file. It defaults to   
   100% when I want it at 80%.   
      
   I also have 3-4 spreadsheets open while copying and pasting data back   
   and forth between them. I can arrange these windows on my PC where   
   they are all visible at once and easily Tab from one to another.   
   Keyboard shortcuts don't work elegantly through a web browser.   
      
   These are just some of the issues with working on Excel files on   
   Sharepoint. There are several more and that's why I prefer using the   
   local version of Microsoft apps rather than the web version.   
      
   >>   
   >>This issue is much like the one being argued to death right now.   
   >>You prefer the cloud method of working documents and I prefer the   
   >>local method of working copies. Both have their pros and cons, but   
   >>at least we have a choice on how we want to implement it. The same   
   >>goes for transferring files between iOS devices and PCs. Some   
   >>people prefer initiating the transfer from the iPhone side and some   
   >>people prefer initiating the transfer from the PC side. Both   
   >>methods work but the pros of one method outweigh the pros of the   
   >>other method for each person.   
      
      
      
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   “The more things change, the more they remain the same.” ~ Alphonse Karr   
      
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