XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-04-14 03:27, badgolferman wrote:   
   > Alan wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025-04-13 05:46, badgolferman wrote:   
   >>> Chris wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> badgolferman wrote:   
   >>>>> Chris wrote:   
   >>>>>> badgolferman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from   
   >>>>>>> MaaS360 which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also   
   >>>>>>> heavily encouraging us to store ALL our documents on   
   >>>>>>> OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So   
   >>>>>>> far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies   
   >>>>>>> on Sharepoint for my colleagues to use in case I get hit   
   >>>>>>> by a bus.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone.   
   >>>>>> The bus factor is an important consideration for an   
   >>>>>> organisation.   
   >>>>>> I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier   
   >>>>>> for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on   
   >>>>> the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or   
   >>>>> locked up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make   
   >>>>> sense?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not really.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works   
   >>>> fine. You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to   
   >>>> hardware loss or failure - than using cloud resources.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can   
   >>>> always go back to a working version due to the in-built history.   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, I disagree with you. Most of my work documents are Excel   
   >>> files and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you   
   >>> want to work on them. Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one   
   >>> thing, but leaving my working versions there is something I'm   
   >>> unwilling to do.   
   >>   
   >> I'm using Excel with online files all the time and never have a   
   >> problem.   
   >   
   > Using a PC bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint. Select a cell with   
   > text in it. Press F2 on your keyboard to enable editing within the   
   > cell. Press Insert on your keyboard to enable typeover of the   
   > characters. That won't work on Sharepoint, but it works on the PC   
   > application. I typeover individual characters in cells all the time   
   > and want the original number visible while I'm editing that cell. It's   
   > cumbersome to use Delete and Backspace keys when the Insert key does   
   > exactly what I want.   
      
   When you say "bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint", I think you mean,   
   "open an Excel file on a SharePoint site with the web version of Excel"...   
      
   ...which isn't what you said you were doing:   
      
   "they [Excel files] just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you   
   want to work on them."   
      
   >   
   > Another annoying thing is text size of the whole file. It defaults to   
   > 100% when I want it at 80%.   
   >   
   > I also have 3-4 spreadsheets open while copying and pasting data back   
   > and forth between them. I can arrange these windows on my PC where   
   > they are all visible at once and easily Tab from one to another.   
   > Keyboard shortcuts don't work elegantly through a web browser.   
   >   
   > These are just some of the issues with working on Excel files on   
   > Sharepoint. There are several more and that's why I prefer using the   
   > local version of Microsoft apps rather than the web version.   
      
   The only problem is that you aren't "working on [] SharePoint".   
      
   Those are all problems using the web version of Excel, which I would   
   happily acknowledge is vastly inferior to the desktop version.   
      
   Only you can "work[] on Excel files" that are located on a SharePoint   
   site using the desktop version of the software. No need to "Check out" a   
   file, and then check it back in when you're done, and multiple people   
   can work on a file simultaneously.   
      
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