XPost: comp.sys.mac.advocacy, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
From: jollyroger@pobox.com
On 2025-04-16, Tyrone wrote:
> On Apr 15, 2025 at 5:50:33 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger"
wrote:
>> On 2025-04-15, Marion wrote:
>>> On 15 Apr 2025 16:13:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote :
>>>
>>>>> That would be OK if it worked. The transfer is one-way, iOS to
>>>>> Windows,
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. It's a standard SMB connection where either side can add/edit
>>>> files to the share. How in the world do you people not know this?
>>>
>>> While the Files app eventually added an SMB client, the real problem to
>>> solve if we ever want Apple devices to work in the real world is to be able
>>> to transfer files bidirectionally between iOS & Android/Linux.
>>
>> SMB connections are bi-directional. If you knew anything about
>> networking, you'd know that.
>
> Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it.
That's not an iOS limitation, though. 😉 iOS SMB transfers are indeed
bi-directional by nature. If someone misconfigures their file sharing
service, they don't get to blame iOS for it.
>>> While setting up an SMB server on Linux isn't all that difficult, since
>>> most Linux desktop owners will also have root access, it won't be that
>>> simple to set up an SMB server on Android (since most are not rooted).
>>
>> Where the server resides is irrelevant since SMB connections are
>> bi-directional.
>
> Only if the SERVER being connected to by the CLIENT allows it.
Again, not an iOS limitation. 😉
>>> Hence, the real problem with Files:SMB is that it doesn't work
>>
>> Several people have told you it works, yet you continue to push this
>> lie. You only come off looking like the foolish troll you are. And
>> badgolferman with you for siding with your lies over reality.
>
> It works when connecting to a SMB SERVER. Since phones don't typically have a
> built-in SMB SERVER, there is nothing for an SMB CLIENT to connect to.
As is sooooo often the case, There's an App for That™. And with such an
app, iOS does indeed have a SMB service to which clients can connect.
One such app, LAN drive SAMBA Server Client, has already been mentioned
here. It was originally released seven years ago. And there are others.
> So iOS <> Android using SMB is not going to work (either direction) until one
> or the other has an SMB SERVER installed. Both are CLIENTS.
Actually, iOS has been able to do exactly this for many years.
> Thus, connecting the Files app (SMB CLIENT) to a Windows SMB SERVER or a
MacOS
> SMB SERVER or a Linux SMB SERVER works fine.
Yep. And contrary to the trolls claims, transfers are bi-directional
with the Files app connecting to SMB services.
> But you can't connect Windows or MacOS or Linux to a phone.
Yes, of course you can.
> The Client contacts the Server.
An app starts the SMB service on the device. Clients can connect to it
using standard methods.
> Client/Server. Networking 101, folks.
Tell that to the trolls claiming what we've been doing for ages with iOS
devices is supposedly impossible. 😉
> I assume that no one ever considered a phone needing to be a server.
Someone should probably tell the app developers who though of that ages
ago! 🤪
> Thus, the bottom line is simple. The Files app on iOS works fine. It is VERY
> EASY to "Copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers".
>
> And 2 phone users are not going worry about any of this. One will simply text
> the photo to the other. Without needing to be on the same wifi network.
> Without needing to be in the same country.
>
> That's Networking 201.
Yes, generally there are faster and better methods to transfer files.
The Apple trolls are using this method as a way to try to claim Apple
devices can't do simple file sharing. And they've been proven wrong once
again by those of us who know better.
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