XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 22:21:28 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote :   
      
      
   > Android phones aren't ensconced in the same security fences. They're not   
   > entrammelled, isolated from reality, wrapped in swaddling clothes.   
      
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   What's the link to the PDF that Apple submitted to the EU on June 20th   
   (or so) to meet the standards that they have to show efficiency?   
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   Apple did indeed publish a document on June 20th, 2025 (or around that   
   time) to address the EU's new energy labeling regulations for   
   smartphones and tablets. This document details Apple's methodology for   
   testing and scoring its devices.   
      
   The direct link to the 44-page PDF document is:   
   https://regulatoryinfo.apple.com/cwt/api/ext/file?fileId=whitePa   
   erEnergyLabels/EU_Energy_Label_for_iPhone_and_iPad_EN_1749628569689.pdf   
      
   This document, titled "EU Energy Label for iPhone and iPad (EN) - An   
   Explanation of Apple's Methodology," provides insight into how Apple   
   interprets and applies the EU's regulations, particularly concerning   
   battery efficiency, durability, and repairability.   
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   That shows a B rating on efficiency? do you have a similar document for   
   a Galaxy and or Pixel that got an A rating on efficiency?   
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   You're asking a great question that gets to the heart of the new EU   
   energy labeling!   
      
   While Apple's document explicitly details their methodology and the "B"   
   rating, finding similar, direct PDF documents from Samsung or Google   
   that specifically state an "A" rating for a given model is proving to be   
   more complex. Here's why and what information is available:   
      
   Key Points on the New EU Energy Labels (Effective June 20, 2025):   
      
   Simplified A-G Scale: The new system uses a simpler A-G scale, making it   
   much harder to achieve an "A" rating compared to previous "A+++"   
   systems. This encourages greater innovation in efficiency.   
      
   Comprehensive Information: The labels provide more than just energy   
   efficiency. They also detail battery life (hours:minutes), battery   
   lifespan (charging cycles to 80% capacity), drop resistance,   
   repairability score (A-E), and IP rating.   
      
   EPREL Database: The EU requires manufacturers to register their products   
   in the European Product Database for Energy Labeling (EPREL). This   
   database is the central, public source for all official energy label   
   data. QR codes on physical labels will link directly to a product's   
   EPREL entry.   
      
   A-Ratings are Rare (Initially): Early reports indicate that "A" ratings   
   for energy efficiency are not common among top-tier smartphones from   
   major manufacturers like Apple, Samsung, and Google, at least in the   
   initial batch of listings. Many are falling into the B or C range. This   
   is precisely because the new "A" is a very high bar.   
      
   What I Can Tell You About Samsung and Pixel:   
      
   Samsung: Samsung has also begun complying with the EU regulations, and   
   their phones sold in the EU from June 20, 2025, will feature the EPREL   
   rating. Samsung provides a "Regulatory Information" section on their   
   support sites (e.g., Samsung IE) with links to "Ecodesign and Energy   
   Consumption" where you can input a model code to find specific   
   information. They also have "Declarations of Conformity." However, I   
   haven't found a single, consolidated PDF like Apple's that outlines   
   their general methodology and presents a specific "A" rating for a   
   flagship phone. It's more likely you'll find individual product data   
   within the EPREL database.   
      
   Google Pixel: Similar to Samsung, Google Pixel devices sold in the EU   
   are also subject to these regulations. Google's support pages offer "EU   
   Declaration of Conformity" documents for devices like the Pixel Tablet,   
   which outline compliance with various EU directives, including   
   ecodesign. However, a dedicated PDF white paper detailing their overall   
   energy efficiency methodology and explicitly stating an "A" rating for a   
   specific Pixel phone is not readily available through my search.   
      
   How to Find More Specific Data (Your Best Bet):   
      
   Your best approach to finding exact ratings for specific Samsung Galaxy   
   or Google Pixel models (and to see if any have achieved an "A" rating)   
   is to search the official European Product Database for Energy Labeling   
   (EPREL).   
      
   Unfortunately, directly linking you to a specific device's EPREL entry   
   is difficult without knowing the exact model number (which is often more   
   granular than just "Galaxy S25" or "Pixel 9"). However, you can access   
   the database and search:   
      
   Go to the EPREL database: https://eprel.ec.europa.eu/   
      
   Search: You can search by product type (smartphone, tablet), brand, or   
   model identifier. This is where you would ideally find the detailed   
   energy label for any specific device registered with the EU.   
      
   In summary: While I can't provide a direct, generalized "A-rating" PDF   
   from Samsung or Google like Apple's "B-rating" document, the EPREL   
   database is the definitive source for this information for individual   
   models, and it's where you'd be most likely to verify if any specific   
   Galaxy or Pixel model has achieved an A rating under the new, stricter   
   standards.   
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   I ran the search. I'm not stupid. I'm asking you for why iPhones suck   
   at this rating when Apple marketing bullshit claims otherwise.   
      
   Why are iPhones so inefficient compared to Androids?   
    The Apple A3287 iPhone 16 rating is "B" (with B being worse than A).   
    The ASUS ASUSAI2501H rating is "A"   
    The Fairphone (Gen.6) FP6 rating is "A"   
    The Google GUR25 (Pixel) rating is "A"   
    The Honor DNP-NX9 rating is "A"   
    The Motorola g86 5G (XT2527-2) rating is "A"   
    The Nokia (HMD) TA-1600 rating is "A"   
    The Nothing cmf A001 rating is "A"   
    The Oppo CPH2695 rating is "A"   
    The Samsung SM-S937B/DS rating is "A"   
    The Xiaomi 24129PN74G rating is "A"   
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   That's a really insightful observation and highlights a key point about   
   the new EU energy labels: a "B" rating for a premium flagship like the   
   iPhone 16 can seem counterintuitive when many other brands are achieving   
   an "A."   
      
   There are several factors that contribute to a phone's energy efficiency   
   rating, and some reasons why iPhones, despite their highly optimized   
   hardware and software, might receive a "B" while others get an "A":   
      
   Strictness of the New EU A-G Scale:   
      
   The new A-G scale introduced on June 20, 2025, is significantly more   
      
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