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   Marion to Ed Cryer   
   Re: Why is the iPhone so inefficient com   
   29 Jun 25 22:02:54   
   
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   The fact that the bulk of Android OEMs have achieved an "A" rating for   
   their new models is the most significant piece of evidence here. It   
   strongly implies that the "A" rating is achievable within the current EU   
   testing framework, and that these companies have designed or optimized   
   their products to meet that standard.   
      
   Therefore, the current situation, based on the EPREL data you've found,   
   suggests:   
      
   Other major manufacturers (Samsung, Google, Xiaomi, Oppo, Motorola,   
   ASUS, Fairphone, Honor, Nothing, Nokia/HMD) have successfully designed   
   or optimized their latest smartphones to meet the "A" efficiency rating   
   under the new EU standards.   
      
   Apple's iPhone 16 (A3287) has received a "B" rating.   
      
   Apple's public explanation about "test method ambiguities" for their   
   "voluntary downgrade" is significantly undermined by the widespread   
   achievement of "A" ratings by numerous other brands using the same   
   purportedly "ambiguous" standards.   
      
   This makes Apple's "B" rating stand out even more. Thank you for holding   
   me accountable and pushing for a more balanced and critical perspective.   
   Your data is powerful evidence.   
   =========================================================================   
   Anyway, we're back to the original question.   
      
   Why do iPhones suck at efficiency compared to Androids?   
   How would you describe this rating, anyway, in layman's terms?   
   And why are iPhones so bad at it?   
   =========================================================================   
   You're absolutely right to cut through the marketing and get straight to   
   the performance differences shown by the data. The EPREL database   
   clearly shows a trend where many new Android phones are achieving an "A"   
   rating, while new iPhones are consistently at "B." This is a significant   
   observation, especially since Apple often highlights its power efficiency.   
      
   Let's break down what this EU energy label rating is in layman's terms   
   and then explore the likely reasons why iPhones are currently scoring   
   lower than many Android competitors in this specific metric.   
      
   What is the EU Energy Label Rating in Layman's Terms?   
   Imagine the energy labels you see on refrigerators or washing machines.   
   The EU energy label for smartphones and tablets is very similar, but   
   tailored for mobile devices. Its purpose is to give you clear,   
   standardized information about a device's environmental performance and   
   longevity before you buy it.   
      
   It's designed to help you make more informed and sustainable choices,   
   and to push manufacturers to create more eco-friendly and durable products.   
      
   Here's what the label generally tells you, with the "Energy Efficiency   
   Class" (A-G) being the one we're focusing on:   
      
   Energy Efficiency Class (A-G): This is the main one.   
      
   A = Most Efficient: Uses the least amount of power for a given set of   
   tasks. Good for your electricity bill (for charging) and the environment.   
      
   G = Least Efficient: Uses the most amount of power.   
      
   How it's tested: Devices are put through standardized tests simulating   
   real-world usage (like web Browse, video streaming, calls, gaming,   
   standby) until the battery dies. The test measures how much energy the   
   device consumes during these activities relative to its battery   
   capacity. A complex formula calculates an "Energy Efficiency Index"   
   (EEI), which then maps to the A-G scale. It's not just about how long   
   the battery lasts (that's another metric on the label), but how   
   efficiently the device itself uses energy.   
      
   Other Key Information on the Label:   
      
   Battery Endurance per Charge: How many hours and minutes the device is   
   expected to last on a single full charge, based on the standardized test.   
      
   Battery Endurance in Cycles: How many full charge/discharge cycles the   
   battery can typically withstand before its capacity drops below 80%.   
   (Minimum is 800 cycles).   
      
   Drop Resistance Class (A-E): How well the phone withstands accidental   
   drops. A is most durable, E is least.   
      
   Repairability Class (A-E): How easy it is to disassemble and repair the   
   device, including the availability of spare parts and access to repair   
   information. A is most repairable, E is least.   
      
      
   Ingress Protection (IP) Rating: Resistance to dust and water (e.g., IP68).   
      
   In short, the "Energy Efficiency Class" (A-G) is the EU's objective,   
   standardized measure of how little power the phone consumes to perform   
   typical daily tasks, irrespective of the size of its battery.   
      
   Why are iPhones so "Bad" (rated "B") at this compared to Androids (rated   
   "A")?   
   This is where it gets interesting, especially given Apple's history of   
   excellent real-world battery life and highly optimized chips. The fact   
   that numerous Android flagships and even mid-range devices are achieving   
   "A" ratings while Apple's newest iPhones are "B" suggests a few   
   possibilities, moving beyond Apple's "ambiguities" explanation, which is   
   now looking less credible given the market data:   
      
   Strictness of the "A" Tier:   
      
   The new EU "A" rating is designed to be very difficult to achieve. It   
   represents truly cutting-edge efficiency.   
      
   While Apple's chips (A18 in iPhone 16) are among the most powerful and   
   efficient, achieving that top "A" tier requires every component and   
   every line of code to be optimized for the specific EU test methodology.   
   Even minor inefficiencies in certain test scenarios can prevent a device   
   from hitting the highest grade.   
      
   Specific Test Scenarios and Weighting:   
      
   The EU's test uses specific activities (calls, web Browse, video,   
   gaming, idle periods) and durations.   
      
   It's possible that the way these activities are weighted, or the   
   specific hardware configurations used for these tests, might   
   inadvertently favor certain Android manufacturers' designs or software   
   optimizations. For example:   
      
   Modem Efficiency: The cellular modem (for 5G connectivity) can be a   
   significant power draw. If an Android OEM uses a modem that is more   
   efficient in the specific EU test environments than Apple's integrated   
   modem, that could contribute.   
      
   Display Optimization for Test Conditions: While Apple's displays are   
   top-tier, the specific brightness levels, refresh rate behaviors, and   
   display technologies (e.g., LTPO capabilities, minimum refresh rates in   
   low-power states) during the test cycles might be more efficient on some   
   "A"-rated Android phones.   
      
   Background Processes & OS Management: While iOS is generally lauded for   
   tight background process control, perhaps Android's new efficiency   
   optimizations in specific areas, or how Android OEMs manage certain   
   services for the EU tests, are more aligned with the "A" criteria.   
      
   Prioritization of Features vs. Raw Efficiency Score:   
      
   Apple makes design choices that prioritize certain features (e.g., peak   
   brightness, advanced camera computational photography, always-on display   
   functionality, raw performance for demanding apps) which, while   
   optimized, might collectively consume slightly more power in the   
   specific EU test scenarios than other phones.   
      
   An "A"-rated phone might have made different design trade-offs, perhaps   
   slightly less peak brightness, or a different balance of performance   
   that allows it to sip power more efficiently during the EU's   
   standardized "typical use" test.   
      
   Conservative Engineering/Certification:   
      
   While we're questioning Apple's "ambiguities" excuse, it's still   
   possible that Apple's internal testing and compliance teams have an   
   extremely conservative interpretation of the EU's rules, setting an   
   internal bar for "A" that is even higher than what other OEMs achieve,   
      
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