XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: marion@facts.com   
      
   On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 10:32:12 -0400, WolfFan wrote :   
      
      
   >> It has my real phone number, true. But not my real name, or real date of   
   >> birth, or any other personal information.   
   >   
   > It's trivial to generate an AppleID which has nothing to do with your   
   > personal info. I have different AppleIDs which I use depending on what I want   
   > to do. This would include AppleIDs used for business purposes.   
      
   None of you ignorant uneducated Apple trolls knows anything about Apple.   
      
   Only on Apple devices is not only privacy impossible, but you need to carry   
   two different devices with you at all times to log into the Apple Account.   
      
   Since all you MAGA zealots are ignorant of everything you speak of, it used   
   to be that you could generate an "Apple ID" without any useful information   
   being supplied. Later, Apple enforced the address had to be real and match   
   the zip code for the Apple ID, but it could be anyone's address and zip   
   code.   
      
   But as of April of 2019, Apple started requiring that the zip code match   
   the billing address of your credit or debit card, where your billing   
   address could be bogus, but the zip code had to be valid for that address.   
      
   At that time, 2FA was optional, although there was a lawsuit that Apple won   
   where people who didn't opt out within the required grace period were stuck   
   with 2FA forever.   
      
   By late 2023, Apple began requiring 2FA for nearly all newly created Apple   
   IDs where there is no opt-out for newer devices. If your device runs iOS 11   
   or macOS High Sierra or later, 2FA is automatically enabled for new   
   accounts and cannot be turned off once activated.   
      
   Keep in mind that on June 11, 2024, Apple changed the terms of the "Apple   
   ID" which they then termed the "Apple Account".   
      
   As of September 2024, Apple expanded 2FA availability to nearly every   
   country and region, making the 2FA requirement a global standard.   
      
   Bear in mind that of the possible methods for authentication, which Apple   
   will require every time you log into the Apple Account (or change   
   settings), the phone *must* be real and it cannot be a VOIP number.   
      
   The fact that Wolfan claims he used a VOIP number, if he did at all, would   
   indicate he did this looooooong ago, as Apple will only accept real phones.   
      
   Apple's policies are absurd that you need to carry with you at all times   
   TWO devices, where even if you don't have a mobile phone with you at all   
   times, Apple can send codes to other Apple devices signed in with your   
   account.   
      
   Only on Apple devices is not only privacy impossible, but you need to carry   
   two different devices with you at all times to log into the Apple Account.   
      
   > And, oh, ancient iPads still work fine around here. With their apps. No, apps   
   > do not die on older iPads.   
      
   None of you ignorant uneducated Apple trolls knows anything about Apple.   
      
   If you don't have an Apple ID on the device, then you can update the OS.   
   But you can't update the apps.   
      
   If you update the OS version, at some point, one by one, the apps will   
   start crashing (which we proved already for you Apple MAGA morons).   
      
   Not one of you ignorant uneducated MAGA Apple trolls knows anything about   
   how Apple works - particularly when you don't put an Apple Account on the   
   device.   
      
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