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   Maria Sophia to All   
   PSA how to fix Windows explorer being bl   
   13 Feb 26 21:18:22   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.freeware   
   From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   PSA how to fix Windows explorer being blind to iPad sidecar .mov thumbnails   
      
   This is about iPad <-> Windows 10 cross platform image/video compatibility.   
      
   BACKGROUND:   
   My phone, which names pictures using a sane algorithm, is broken so I'm   
   using one of my iPads to take Vine photos for my next set of reviews.   
      
   When copied over to Windows using Apple's asinine naming conventions, I get   
     202408_a   
     202412_a   
     202508_a   
     202512_a   
     ... snip ...   
     202602_a   
      
   In that last folder are the files taken today which are saved under iOS'   
   asinine naming conventions of   
   IMG_0509.JPG, IMG_0510.JPG, IMG_0511.JPG, etc. along with Live Photos   
   IMG_0509.MOV, IMG_0510.MOV, IMG_0511.MOV, etc where doubleclicking on the   
   MOV files brings up MPC-BE which plays the Apple live-action sidecar file.   
      
   The problem is there are no thumbnails in Windows 10, by default, for the   
   MOV files, so I looked up how to add thumbnails to Win10 for MOV files.   
      
   Apparently Windows Explorer needs a decoder to extract a frame for a MOV   
   thumbnail. Most people use MPC-BE on Windows to play short video sidecar   
   files, which can play the MOV file because MPC uses its own internal   
   codecs, but Windows 10 File Explorer can't show the thumbnails natively.   
      
   Apparently the .mov files from the iPad almost certainly use HEVC (H.265).   
   but it seems that Windows Explorer cannot decode HEVC without:   
    a. Either Microsoft's paid HEVC extension (yeah, right), or   
    b. A modern third-party thumbnail provider like Icaros 3.x   
      
   Given that most .mov files from iPads use HEVC (H.265) video, we need to   
   give Microsoft Windows 	10 a way to generate thumbnails for HEVC.   
      
   It can't do that unless the proper codec is installed.   
   Without the codec, we get what I see which is   
    a. Blank icons   
    b. No preview in File Explorer   
   But the file still plays in MPC-BE (because MPC-BE has its own codecs).   
      
   The "official" fix from Microsoft is apparently to buy Microsoft's HEVC   
   Video Extensions (yeah, right), where the moment you pay even a single cent   
   for anything, you lose your privacy, so that's a dead end out of the box.   
      
   Since I've installed every file converter ever suggested on these   
   newsgroups, there's always the option to convert the .mov -> .mp4, using   
   Handbrake or ffmpeg or the last-known-good-version of Super which is   
   version  2010.bld.42 (Nov 7, 2010) (but that's likely too old).   
      
   However, a better option, apparently, is to install a third-party thumbnail   
   provider such as Icaros which is a part of the K-Lite Codec Pack that adds   
   thumbnail support for .mov, .mp4, .mkv, HEVC, etc.   
      
   That's it. It's that easy.   
   No Microsoft account, no Store, no HEVC purchase. Privacy protected.   
      
   The last time I installed codecs appears to be way back in 2018 or so.   
    C:\> dir C:\software\editor\codec\   
       11/23/2018  09:18 PM              avicodec   
       03/14/2019  12:57 AM              codecinstaller   
       11/23/2018  09:19 PM              cole2k   
       03/07/2019  10:50 AM              gspot   
       11/23/2018  09:20 PM              klite   
       11/23/2018  09:20 PM              mediainfo   
       03/14/2019  12:55 AM       
   TechSmithScreenScaptureCodec_for_Camtasia   
       11/23/2018  09:20 PM              videoInspector   
      
    C:\> dir C:\software\editor\codec\klite   
       11/14/2018  12:13 PM        16,086,254 K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1455_Basic.exe   
       11/14/2018  12:13 PM        46,345,213 K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1455_Full.exe   
       11/14/2018  12:14 PM        57,367,629 K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1455_Mega.exe   
       11/14/2018  12:14 PM        39,878,984   
   K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1455_Standard.exe   
       11/14/2018  12:14 PM        17,291,837 klcp_update_1455_20181106.exe   
       03/23/2020  04:04 AM        17,980,609 K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1540_Basic.exe   
       03/23/2020  04:04 AM        50,086,779 K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1540_Full.exe   
       03/23/2020  04:03 AM        61,038,349 K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1540_Mega.exe   
       03/23/2020  04:03 AM        43,329,798   
   K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1540_Standard.exe   
      
   Almost certainly Windows Explorer won't get modern HEVC/H.265 thumbnails   
   from those so it's time I updated my codecs to handle this Apple crap.   
       
       
    Options exist for Basic, Standard, Full & Mega but I only need Basic.   
       
       
    Name: K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1945_Basic.exe   
    Size: 22794319 bytes (21 MiB)   
    SHA256: D301046FEB19E3E5ED9FC08620F1CAAA66C3C43CFC62BB44B59277D79514504F   
      
   Once it's installed I'm supposed to   
    a. Open Icaros Configuration (Start Menu -> K-Lite Codec Pack)   
    b. Turn Thumbnailing ON   
    c. Make sure .mov is checked   
    d. Click Activate Icaros   
   And refresh my thumbnail cache if needed to make MOV thumbnails appear.   
      
   Doubleclicking the installer exe pops up a UAC because it needs to register   
   shell extensions and then it asks for the Installation Mode of   
    (o)Normal   
    (_)Advanced   
   Then it asks for the preferred media player   
    [Media Player Classic (MPC-BE)   
    [VLC Media Player]   
    [Something else]   
   And the preferred audio player   
    [Media Player Classic (MPC-BE)   
    [VLC Media Player]   
    [Something else]   
   [x]Create file associations   
   [x]Thumbnails, Disable cache removal by Windows Maintenance   
      
   I took all the defaults because the one thing that I'd change doesn't   
   exist, which is to put the codecs where I want to put them on my PC.   
      
   Unfortunately it's a Stone-Age installer that doesn't go where you want it   
   to go (as it goes into the asinine Program Files (x86) garbage bin, but it   
   is what it is because K-Lite is 32-bit by design because Explorer's   
   thumbnail handler is 32-bit. So apparently it's required for compatibility.   
      
   Seconds later, my dummy browser trap caught the installer phoning home to   
    [Fri 02/13/2026 19:42:21.13] Attempted launch:   
   C:\data\sys\batch\dummybrowser.exe   
   "http://www.codecguide.com/configuration_tips.htm?version=1945"   
      
   Voila!   
      
   Explorer finally stops acting blind and instantly started showing   
   thumbnails for the MOV sidecar files from my iOS iPad.   
      
   I was surprised that the installer auto-activated Icaros since I had   
   thought we'd have to open Icaros manually and click Activate.   
      
   But in my case, apparently the installer saw that:   
    a. this was a fresh install (not an upgrade)   
    b. thumbnailing was enabled in the setup options   
    c. no previous Icaros registration existed   
   So, apparently, the installer registered the Icaros thumbnail handler   
   automatically during installation. Kewl. It just works.   
      
      
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