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|    PSA: The only practical way to preserve     |
|    01 Mar 26 12:42:03    |
      XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system       From: mariasophia@comprehension.com              PSA:       The only practical way to preserve iOS apps       (including IPAs, app data, and sub-versions)       is to keep a spare iOS device in your desk drawer,       (a different iOS device for each archive)       so you can archive to and from it at a later date       (e.g., if you buy a new iPhone 17 & you want all the old       app sub versions and all your app data and settings).              Don't blame me for the steps since this is how Apple does things.              DEFINITIONS:       IPA = the packaged app program downloaded from the App Store        (similar to a ZIP)       App bundle = the installed form of the IPA after iOS unpacks it       App data = our documents, settings, saved progress       App sub-version = the specific version of the app installed on the device              Note that Android & Windows separate the installer from the installed app.       a. APK (Android) is an installer, not the installed app.       b. MSI/EXE (Windows) is an installer, not the installed program.              But iOS does NOT separate the installer from the installed program, per se.       a. We download an IPA.       b. iOS unpacks it into an app bundle.       c. The bundle is the installed app.       d. The original IPA file is deleted after installation.              So on iOS, the installed app bundle is the unpacked IPA.              Note iCloud backups do NOT include the IPA or the installed app bundle.       Neither do computer-based backups include the IPA or the installed bundle.              They only save your app data.       During restore, iOS attempts to re-download the IPA from the App Store.       If the IPA is gone, abandoned, or incompatible, the app cannot be restored.              That's something only iOS does as no other common consumer operating system       prevents a backup from containing the actual app installer (where, in the       case of Android, the app installer is *always* saved on the device itself).              Platform clarification:       a. On macOS: backups are made using Finder (or older iTunes versions).       b. On Windows: backups are made using iTunes.       c. On Linux: there is no official Apple backup tool        (so, for Linux, only iCloud backups apply)              In ALL cases above, backups save ONLY app data.       They NEVER save the IPA, the installed bundle, or the app sub-version.       Restore always depends on the App Store still offering the IPA.              But wait... there's more. Much more. There's a trick!              A powered-off, drawer-stored iOS device can act as an "app archive"!       Yup. How cool is that!              Since Quick Start device-to-device transfer copies:       a. the installed app bundle (the unpacked IPA, the actual runnable app),       b. the app data (your documents and settings),       c. the exact app sub-version installed on the old device       We can take advantage of this trick to archive installed iOS apps!              This is the ONLY Apple-supported method that preserves the runnable app       itself (i.e., the installed bundle) and the exact sub-version, and not just       the app data.              One way to create an iOS-app-archive device:       a. Power off and old iOS device and store it safely.       b. When you want to preserve your current device's apps and data,        turn on the archive device.       c. Use Quick Start to transfer from your current device        to the archive device.       d. Power off the archive device, and store it safely.              What this method preserves:       a. The installed app bundle (the unpacked IPA, the runnable app)       b. The app data (documents, settings, saved progress)       c. The exact app sub-version currently installed       d. Apps removed from the App Store       e. Old sub-versions that cannot be re-downloaded       f. Apps from developers who disappeared       g. Apps that still run on the old device's iOS version              What this method cannot guarantee:              This is not a perfect time capsule. It works only as long as:       a. The installed app bundle still runs on the old device       b. The app's sub-version is still compatible with the new        device's iOS version              If both conditions hold, Quick Start will continue to copy the installed       bundle, the app data, and the exact sub-version even many years later.              In summary, this trick is needed if you actually want to archive the IPA.       But keep in mind the old device is not a "backup", per se.       It's more like a "living copy" of:        a. the installed app bundle (the unpacked IPA),        b. the app data,        c. the exact sub-version.              As long as that living copy still runs, it can be cloned forward into the       future.              There are practical considerations:        1. The living archive should start clean        2. But it should be under your identity              Here's how to set up that living copy of you app archives.              1. Erase the device completely        Settings > General > Transfer or Reset iPad >        Erase All Content and Settings              2. Set it up as YOUR device        a. Sign in with YOUR Apple ID        b. Do NOT restore from anyone's backup        c. Choose 'Set Up as New iPad'              3. (Optional but important)        a. Update iOS to a version that:        i. Is new enough to run your current apps        ii. But not so new that it risks breaking any        very old apps you might want to preserve              4. Turn it into the archive        a. Use Quick Start from your current iPhone/iPad to this archive iPad        b. Let it copy:        i. your installed app bundles (unpacked IPAs),        ii. your app data,        iii. your exact app sub-versions              5. When done        a. Power it off        b. Put it in the drawer              Note if you wanted multiple versions over time, you would need multiple       physical devices, one for each living archive. It's how Apple does things.              If you don't have multiple physical iOS devices to make multiple archives,       then you must use the same device, but you can have only one archive.              6. To update the archive device again in the future        a. Turn on the archive device        b. Verify that it still boots and that the preserved apps still run        c. Place it next to your current device        d. Start Quick Start on your current device        and choose the archive device as the TARGET of the transfer        e. Allow it to copy:        i. the installed app bundles (unpacked IPAs),        ii. the app data,        iii. the exact app sub-versions        f. This overwrites the previous state of the archive device        with a new snapshot of your current device        g. When the transfer is complete, power it off        h. Put it back in the drawer              How to use the archive device when you buy a new iPhone 17.              1. Turn on the new iPhone 17        a. It should be at the "Hello" screen (unactivated)        b. Do NOT set it up manually        c. Do NOT sign in        d. Do NOT restore from iCloud or a computer              2. Turn on your archive device        a. Make sure it still boots              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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