XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.freeware   
   From: marionf@fact.com   
      
   Tyrone wrote:   
   > Apps are not the problem, dipshit.   
      
   I'm not sure why you think there is a "problem" nor why you think asking   
   how many apps a typical user has installed requires you using deprecations.   
      
   I'll volunteer what I have stored on my el-cheapo free Android phone.   
     Android storage   
      
   Note that shows the storage on the permanent 64GB storage, which no phone   
   should ever need more of than that, as it's plenty, and the sd card also.   
      
   There are about a thousand packages installed on that 64GB main memory.   
      
   > I have 256GB on my iPhones.   
      
   Of course you do. Every iPhone lacks fundamental hardware which Apple   
   strategically doesn't provide you so that you *must* buy more storage!   
      
   Apple designs the iPhone to cost as much as they can possibly make it.   
   You have to buy all your intended storage, on day 1, up front.   
   At today's prices (instead of the much cheaper prices years from now).   
   Apple didn't become the very profitable company it is by being stupid.   
      
   > I have 161GB of music files (MP3) on my iPhone 16 Pro Max.   
      
   That puny amount will easily fit onto any Android phone that has an sdcard   
   given how fast & inexpensive even the huge quality sd cards are nowadays.   
      
   > Rest assured that can't be done with 64GB of storage.   
      
   Heh heh heh... what you're really saying is you're sorry your device is an   
   iPhone because no iPhone can store anywhere near what most Android can.   
      
   > I wanted 512GB in my iPhone 16 Pro Max but the company I work for did not   
   > offer it.  All they have is 256GB. BTW I paid $650 plus tax for it, and they   
   > pay the monthly AT&T bill. The retail price was $1200. It is my phone, I can   
   > sell it whenever I want and get a new one from the company. I still have the   
   > 256GB 8 Plus that I paid $500 plus tax for in 2018. The retail price was   
   $950.   
      
   Thank God people like you exist so that Apple's profits can be so high.   
      
   > Everything I have is 256GB minimum. iPhones/iPods/iPads.   I also have 512GB   
   > and 1TB iPad Pros. I have 3.7TB of MP3 music files on my Windows server,   
   which   
   > I routinely connect to via Wi-Fi networking using the iOS Files app, to get   
   my   
   > MP3 files for mobile use. The networking you claimed could not be done   
   without   
   > adding 3rd party apps to iPhones/iPads.   
      
   Apple never included an sd slot in the iPhone because Apple isn't stupid.   
   Their profits are highly dependent on people like you doing exactly that.   
      
   They control your every action.   
   Apple is the Master. You are Apple's Sklave.   
      
   > I also have a 2TB SSD on this new M4 Mac mini and 1TB in my M2 MacBook Pro.   
   > Storage is SO MUCH more than just apps...   
      
   The question was simply about how many apps people on this newsgroup   
   install. I have about a thousand installed, half of which I added.   
      
   I ran this script just now which told me the last ten apps that I used.   
    # dumpsys.ps1   
    # Version: 1.1   
    # Date: 2025-09-15   
    #   
    # This script uses adb to query the Android usagestats service and extract   
    # the 10 most recently used apps for the primary user.   
    #   
    # The Package column shows the internal Android package name for each app.   
    # The LastUsed column shows the date and time when that app was last in   
    # the foreground or otherwise counted as "used" by the system.   
    # The list is sorted so the most recently used app is at the top.   
    # The timestamps are formatted as yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss in 24-hour time,   
    # regardless of the system's regional settings.   
    # This does not show how long the app was used, only the most recent time   
    # it was active.   
      
    adb shell dumpsys usagestats | Select-String "package=" | ForEach-Object {   
      # Match and capture the package name from the line   
      if ($_ -match 'package=([^ ]+)') {   
        $pkg = $matches[1]   
        # Match and capture the lastTimeUsed value from the same line   
        if ($_ -match 'lastTimeUsed="([^"]+)"') {   
          $time = $matches[1]   
          # Skip entries with the default 1969-12-31 timestamp (never used)   
          if ($time -ne '1969-12-31 16:00:00') {   
            # Output as a custom object with package name and formatted datetime   
            [PSCustomObject]@{ Package = $pkg; LastUsed = (Get-Date   
   $time).ToString("yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss") }   
          }   
        }   
      }   
    } | Sort-Object LastUsed -Descending | Select-Object -First 10   
      
   My output from that script is all these system & freeware apps:   
    PS:\> .\dumpsys.ps1   
      
    Package                               LastUsed   
    -------                               --------   
    moe.shizuku.privileged.api            2025-11-09 19:42:56   
    com.simplemobiletools.dialer          2025-11-05 06:01:53   
    org.dslul.openboard.inputmethod.latin 2025-11-05 03:45:17   
    com.samsung.SMT                       2025-11-05 01:27:27   
    com.sec.android.easyMover             2025-11-03 16:16:52   
    org.torproject.torbrowser             2025-11-03 06:51:05   
    com.enflick.android.TextNow           2025-11-02 04:45:14   
    org.mozilla.firefox                   2025-11-02 04:28:00   
    me.dingtone.app.im                    2025-11-02 02:48:55   
    com.aefyr.sai                         2025-11-02 02:37:09   
      
   When you get a chance, can you run that script for your iPhone.   
   Let us know what information you can glean from iOS' databases.   
     Android storage   
      
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