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   Carlos E.R. to Tyrone   
   Re: Some claims about full support for t   
   25 Sep 25 03:05:16   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-09-23 23:01, Tyrone wrote:   
   > On Sep 23, 2025 at 7:51:43 AM EDT, ""Carlos E.R.""    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025-09-20 14:48, Tyrone wrote:   
   >>   
   >> ...   
   >>   
   >>> None have TPM 2.0 and Secure boot. But those are only checked during the   
   >>> install. Neither are needed to actually RUN Windows 11.   
   >>   
   >> Hum.   
   >>   
   >> I have a W11 virtual machine on a vmware host running on Linux. One day   
   >> I needed to delete some files. Windows refused. Ok, boot Linux from a CD   
   >> and do it. But Linux CD would not boot, because failed key. Fine,   
   >> disable secure boot, then boot Linux CD, then delete the damn file,   
   >> finally reboot Windows.   
   >>   
   >> Hey, this is funny, Windows has lost internet access. What...? Did I   
   >> delete something crucial? No, W11 decided that no secure boot implies   
   >> networking is disabled, not secure.   
   >   
   > Not sure what any of that has to do with anything I stated. Sounds like a   
   > problem with your VM.   
      
   No. The point is that Windows was not happy with the machine not been   
   secure and refused to allow me to go to internet. A check done after   
   installation of W11. Secure boot is needed to actually run W11, at least   
   on some hardware.   
      
   Unless you manage to trick W to not check, somehow.   
   > The fact is, I am running Windows 11 on several 10 year old (and older) PCs.   
   > The whole point of Rufus is to remove the checks for TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot   
   > during the install. Many other people are doing the same thing. Rest assured   
   > that a Lenovo IdeaPad Z710 with a 4th gen i7 does not have Secure Boot or TPM   
   > 2.0.  It does have UEFI boot.  It is running Windows 11 24H2 just fine.   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
   ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;   
      
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