XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy   
   From: marionf@fact.com   
      
   sms wrote:   
   > In any case, the exploits are closed after being discovered and it's not   
   > like there is an order of magnitude difference.   
      
   This post contains more insight than you've ever had in your entire life,   
   Steve.   
      
   Apple locked you into the barbed-wire prison garden for your safety.   
   And yet, you gained no safety.   
      
   You lost everything buying Apple products.   
   And gained nothing.   
      
   Why?   
   Apple lied.   
      
   They didn't lock you into the walled garden for your safety after all.   
   Fancy that.   
      
   > And of course these are only the zero-day-exploits, they don't represent   
   > any other security concerns.   
      
   Actually, they're three things, and not necessarily zero days:   
    1. The exploit has a valid CVE ID.   
    2. There is reliable evidence of active exploitation.   
    3. A clear remediation action is already available to the general public.   
      
   As Chris pointed out, the CISA database is only about 6% of the known bugs.   
      
   > It's very difficult to install non-app store apps on an iOS device, but   
   > it's fairly easy on Android.   
      
   You lost everything buying Apple products.   
   And gained nothing.   
      
   The security on iOS is about the same as the security on Android.   
   Here is a sample CISA KEV output but it depends on how you set switches.   
    Running on platform: Windows PowerShell   
    PowerShell version: 5.1.19041.6328   
    Downloaded fresh file: C:\data\sys\batch\cisa\kev.csv   
    Estimated Apple-related exploits: 106   
    Estimated Android-related exploits: 110   
    Estimated shared exploits: 20   
    Press any key to continue . . .   
      
   Apple "said" they wrapped you in barbed wire "for your safety".   
   And yet, that safety never existed. And never will.   
      
   Because that's NOT why Apple locked you in that barbed-wire prison garden.   
      
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