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   On 10/20/2025 10:03 AM, Marion wrote:   
   > AJL wrote:   
      
   >> The only possible problem with my S10+ being old is that there's no   
   >> more updates. The last one was 1.5 years ago. Dunno how much of a   
   >> security problem that is but I don't keep anything sensitive on it   
   >> anymore just to be safe...   
      
   > I don't fully disagree with you as I'm in the same boat on my Galaxy.   
   > It's an A32-5G that I got free (for the sales tax) in April of 2021.   
      
   My Galaxy S10+ was $699 US after the Verizon discount (list was $999) in   
   September 2019. They had a 2 year no interest payment plan. There was no   
   lock but if I quit Verizon during that period I of course had to pay it off.   
      
   > It's on Android 13, where I don't know of anything in 16 that I need.   
   > In Settings, my Android Security Patch Level is February 1st. 2025.   
      
   My S10+ is now on Android 12.   
      
   > As I recall, it was born with Android 11 so that's 3 Android   
   > versions. And we can infer that it got 4 years of full hotfix   
   > security updates.   
      
   I don't remember what OS version mine came with.   
      
   > Where I slightly disagree with what you said is that a lot of people   
   > are unaware that the core modules are updated forever (as far as we   
   > know). That means every single Android 10 and up phone (which is   
   > billions) is updated every month forever (as far as we're aware) on   
   > the Internet. So we're still getting security updates but only to   
   > the core modules.   
      
   So if you were me would you feel safe keeping your banking and   
   investment apps on my OS update abandoned phone?   
      
   > Of course, the apps are still getting security updates if set to   
   > auto.   
      
   Of course most all of my individual Android apps (Google, Kindle,   
   Facebook, and banking, etc.) are still getting their individual updates.   
      
   I've never heard of an Android banking or investment app being broken   
   into because the OS was out of date so perhaps I'm being overly   
   paranoid. On the other hand I don't really NEED to use those sensitive   
   apps on my phone when I'm out and since there's (safer?) up to date   
   devices to use at home that seems a better choice to me...   
      
   Speaking of paranoia all my "safe" devices were make in China, Korea,   
   Japan, etc. I've often wondered in the back of my mind if there were any   
   OS back doors...  8-O   
      
   > As far as I know, any "modern" phone can handle 4G and many handle   
   > 5G. All major US carriers offer both 4G and 5G service around the   
   > USA.   
      
   Probably depends on the area. My metro area (5th largest USA city) has   
   good 4G coverage everywhere I've needed it. But then again I can travel   
   for just an hour up into the mountains and lose the signal...   
      
   > If the OP needs to know the signal strength, plenty of wi-fi   
   > debugging apps will show him his signal strength for his carrier (in   
   > dBm units). IMHO, the OP should look for decibels above -120 (i.e.,   
   > minus 100 is OK).   
      
   Hopefully micky will check back with his results...   
      
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