From: this@ddress.is.invalid   
      
   Carlos E.R.  wrote:   
   > On 2025-11-05 08:52, Andy Burns wrote:   
   > > micky wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> Jason H wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> After a recent loss at an airport, I've started putting Chipolo   
   > >>> devices in my bags. The network is nothing like as good as   
   > >>> Apple's, but it can warn if you're going out of range of your   
   > >>> belongings. The network will likely work badly in Europe where   
   > >>> there is little balance in the privacy argument.   
   >   
   > I have one tag, "Tile Pro (2022)". It works well in Europe, but it needs   
   > that passerby's have the app.   
      
     What I do is a bit awkward, but has the best chance of locating your   
   lost item. I use Apple AirTags and ask a trusted family member who has   
   an iPhone to add my AirTags to their list of findable devices.   
      
     iPhones do not need a seperate app and AFAIK their 'finding'   
   capability is on by default, i.e. they have to opt-out to not use it.   
   Because of this, Apple AirTags have a much higher chance of being   
   detected/located than any of the compitition can (because, as you say,   
   they depend on a app being present on the device doing the detection/   
   location_reporting).   
      
     I tested this setup during our travels to/in Australia and for example   
   the iPhone family memnber could locate our AirTags, which were inside   
   our 4WD camper (small motorhome) on a campground with hardly anybody   
   there and no-one close by. But even there, there apparently was at least   
   one person with an iPhone which detected our AirTags and reported their   
   location to our trusted family member. The reported location was   
   accurate within a few metres.   
      
   [...]   
      
   > The best would be devices that work without installing anything in the   
   > phones, with both Apple and Android phones. There was talk of this, but   
   > I don't know if they exist yet.   
      
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