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   On 12/2/25 12:35 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   >AJL  wrote:   
   >> On 12/2/25 9:26 AM, Marian wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >I'm actually surprised, Carlos, that the ISP manages "the router", where I   
   >> >would NOT be surprised if the ISP manages "the modem" (even as I'm well   
   >> >aware that router:modem combinations exist (which may be what you have).   
   >>   
   >> My router/modem is owned and operated by my ISP. It's part of the service.   
   >>  Further unless turned off it's also a hotspot for all the other ISP's   
   >>  customers (their password required) who are in WiFi range and might want to   
   >>  use it. When mine failed awhile back I used my neighbors hotspot until it   
   >>  was fixed (at no charge, part of the service). Great for us none-tech   
   >>  customers whom I suspect most are...   
   >   
   >  The modem/router may be *owned* by your ISP and the *modem* part is   
   >indeed likely to be operated and managed by your ISP. But the *router*   
   >part can not be 'operated' (managed?) by your ISP, at least not fully,   
   >otherwise they could mess up your part (your 'LAN'), change your   
   >password, access your LAN, etc.. *If* they could 'operate'/manage the   
   >router part, you could never be hold liable for what happens on your   
   >end/network, because it wouldn't be your network.   
      
      
   All Greek to me. Bottom line for me is I plug in the device's AC cord, screw   
    on the cable, enter a password, and bingo I have WiFi and I'm online...   
      
      
   >  FWIW, my (cable) ISP indeed manages the modem part, I manage the rest   
   >(for example the WiFi password, set fixed IP addresses, etc.).   
      
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