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   Marian to Chris   
   Re: Discussion: How to set up your mobil   
   07 Dec 25 16:23:08   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.internet.wireless   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   > As you well know the scenarios shown are disasters or warzones. Which   
   > aren't of relevance to civilians as they have far more serious issues to   
   > worry about.   
      
   I get it that you defend Apple to the death, no matter what.   
   So I understand why you're so desperate to minimize this security flaw.   
      
   >   
   > They also report that 0.06% of all APs moved month to month. That's a   
   > really poor hit rate for "tracking" people.   
      
   Any imaginative person can think of many instances where having a database   
   of all the people who moved and exact where from and to, is useful.   
      
   Let's just say California wanted to find all the people who moved from   
   California to Florida who retired to ask them to pay their 401K taxes.   
      
   It would be trivial, using Apple's WPS system, to find everyone in any   
   given county in Florida who recently moved there from California.   
      
   >> I almost had a heart attack when I saw how clearly I could identify each   
   >> and every one of my neighbors by their exact location and BSSID, Chris.   
   >   
   > That is the exact point of it. It would be a pretty terrible service if it   
   > couldn't identify unique buildings within 40 acre plots. lol.   
      
   I get it that you are desperate to claim always that Apple is perfect.   
   But the fact I can be tracked to 8 decimal places can't be excused.   
      
   I already provided plenty of quotes from security professionals on this.   
      
   If you want to continue your absurd desperate attempt to defend everything   
   Apple does, to the death, no matter what, please find at least one security   
   professional on record for agreeing with your dismissal of the problem set.   
      
   >> All of us can be tracked. And it's not just me saying it.   
   >> Read the papers, Chris. Read them.   
   >   
   > Literally says 0.06% of APs move . That's nowhere near "all of us".   
      
   If I was a Sheriff in a county of California that wanted to track all the   
   people who moved from a different county of California, I could track them.   
      
   I'm not advocating tracking, as you must know, but what I'm pointing out to   
   you is that I understand that you defend Apple to the death, no matter   
   what, using absurd arguments that are so nonsensical as to be ridiculous.   
      
   Why don't you find a security pro who agrees with your point of view?   
   (Even all the Apple-centric publications decried Apple for this.)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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