From: jj@franjam.org.uk
On 2025-12-19, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Jim Jackson, 2025-12-18 21:26:
>
>> On 2025-12-15, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Marian, 2025-12-12 18:24:
>>>
>>>> Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>>>> It's shocking to me it's not just on:off for the controls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because there are multiple options for it:
>>>>>
>>>>> - off
>>>>> - always on
>>>>> - automatic if needed
>>>>>
>>>>> And sometimes also additional features like filling flash or open or
>>>>> closing flash. When you are used to "real" cameras, you know, that a
>>>>> flash is not just a simple "on/off".
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I get it. I worked in the Silicon Valley on software that costs
>>>> millions per seat, so I'm fully aware how software developers think.
>>>
>>> That's not "how software developers think". Real cameras work this way.
>>> Did you ever use a real camera?
>>>
>>
>> Thing is an awefull lot of phone camera users never used a "real" camera
>> - a point and shoot instamatic or similar. "real" camera users are a
>> minority. Very often having a simple mode, and an option for expert mode
>> where lots of "real" things happen is often the best way to go.
>
> Even a piint and shoot camera has more settings than just "flash on" and
> "flash off". At least an automatic mode to use flash only if needed is
> often available.
Indeed with cheap automatics, that was often the only option. It often
wasn't important to get absolute "correct" exposure, the film processing
and printing shops often could auto-correct a stop or two when printing.
Another point is that flash teneded to be needed in more situations with
film.
Modern digital sensors have way better low light
performance than most films did :-)
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