From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   VanguardLH wrote:   
   >> A phone that's "network unlocked" simply works with any carrier.   
   >> That's all you need for carrier flexibility.   
   >   
   > That's okay, but usually displays the carrier's logo during boot.  No   
   > big deal.  I'm not sure the boot is any faster without showing the logo.   
      
   Agreed. I get the magenta T-Mobile logo even though I'm carrier unlocked.   
   But I'm also on the T-Mobile carrier.   
      
   I'm not sure what happens when another carrier updates their software.   
      
   >> "Factory unlocked" (U1) only means it was sold by Samsung without   
   >> carrier software, but not that the bootloader can be unlocked.   
   >   
   > Without the bloatware would be nice.  However, wouldn't I still be able   
   > to uninstall the crap using ADB?  For stuff bundled crap I don't want, I   
   > usually just go into the app drawer to disable it, so it doesn't show in   
   > the default view of the app drawer; i.e., out of sight, out of mind.   
      
   Yup. Even without being root, my experience has been I've been able to   
   uninstall about 98 or 99 out of 100 carrier bloat apps using Windows adb.   
      
   There's also a local adb, but it's so much more difficult to set up than   
   Windows adb that I wouldn't recommend debloating without using a PC.   
      
   Note that adb uninstalling will leave system apps in the system partition.   
   But they're out of sight and out of mind so they're effectively gone.   
      
   >> And in the U.S., no Samsung Snapdragon model-U or U1-allows bootloader   
   >> unlocking at all as far as I'm aware from the XDA Developers site   
   >> queries I've listed above.   
   >>   
   >> So the only thing that matters for your goal is that the phone is network   
   >> unlocked and supports the right U.S. bands; the rest of the terminology   
   >> doesn't affect carrier compatibility and is where much confusion arises.   
   >   
   > Sounds about right for not locking me into a particular carrier, but I   
   > still have to watch for region for the phone.   
      
   In the USA, pretty much, all the carriers allow unlocking as per FTC rules.   
   But what's interesting is Verizon has particularly stringent FTC rules.   
      
   There's more about that in a recent thread by me on that specific topic.   
    From: Marian    
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android   
    Subject: Verizon refused to unlock man's phone - then he sued - and they   
   unlocked it   
    Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2025 10:48:12 -0700   
    Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com)   
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