From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   AJL wrote:   
   >> I don't live in the slums so I too don't have PINs on my devices   
   >> either. If someone steals my phone, all they get is the phone anyway.   
   >> There's nothing on it except pictures that I would care about.   
   >   
   > For those billions of us that use Google products the phone should be   
   > locked because the Google sensitive apps inside (like Gmail and Drive   
   > etc.) are not. If I lose my phone the phone lock gives me time to get to   
   > another device and change my Google password. After that even if the   
   > lock is broken nothing of value is available.   
      
   Hi AJL,   
      
   I never disagree with any logically sensible sentient defensible statement.   
      
   Hence, I agree with you if you're saying that you understand that, with a   
   mothership account, the account (and its associated data) is the danger   
   when/if the phone is physically accessed by a non-friendly person.   
      
   Given that...   
   i. I get why people who rely on Google accounts want a lock screen as the   
      account data is the "dangerous" target to protect, not the hardware.   
      
   ii. However, given I understand phones better than most people ever will,   
       my setup is different. I do not use Google accounts or any other   
       cloud accounts on the phone, so there is nothing on the device whose   
       autologgedin account can be used to pivot into any online data.   
      
   iii. Being intelligent in addition to understanding computers, the little   
        personal data I do keep is inside encrypted containers, so the phone   
        itself is only a shell. Without the passphrase the containers stay   
        closed, and the passphrase is never stored on the device.   
      
   iv. Because of that unusual intelligence and comprehensive understanding   
       of why marketing is so desperate for us to store things on their   
       cloud, the inconvenience of a lock screen adds no real protection   
       for me, as it would only add. Convenience matters greatly in my case,   
       where, for example, if something takes me two steps, I cut it to   
       one (which is why everything is only a single tap away for me,   
      
   v. Given most people aren't anywhere nearly as comprehensive as I am   
      int terms of computer knowledge, they use a different threat model,   
      where their different threat model leads to different choices.   
      
      To most people who fall prey to those highly marketing cloud accounts,   
      a lock screen makes sense given they choose a model which requires it.   
      
   However, I do agree that it takes uncommon intelligence & knowledge of   
   computers and data security to successfully avoid accounts and keeping   
   only sensitive data in encrypted volumes which are accessed infrequently.   
      
   People who can't understand the sophisticated threat model I use will never   
   understand it because they do always what the marketing tells them to do.   
      
   I accept prima facie evidence that most people don't think philosophically   
   about how a computing device "should" be set up to balance both convenience   
   & privacy, which is why they seem to fall prey to biometric gimmicks.   
   --   
   Here on Usenet we each have decades of experience setting up our devices.   
      
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