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   On 1/24/2026 12:34 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:   
   > AJL wrote:   
      
   >> For those billions of us that use Google products the phone should   
   >> be locked because the Google sensitive apps inside (like Gmail and   
   >> Drive etc.) are not. If I lose my phone the phone lock gives me   
   >> time to get to another device and change my Google password. After   
   >> that even if the lock is broken nothing of value is available.   
      
   > Hi AJL, I never disagree with any logically sensible sentient   
   > defensible statement. Hence, I agree with you if you're saying that   
   > you understand that, with a mothership account, the account (and its   
   > associated data) is the danger when/if the phone is physically   
   > accessed by a non-friendly person. Given that... i. I get why people   
   > who rely on Google accounts want a lock screen as the account data is   
   > the "dangerous" target to protect, not the hardware. ii. However,   
   > given I understand phones better than most people ever will, my setup   
   > is different. I do not use Google accounts or any other cloud   
   > accounts on the phone, so there is nothing on the device whose   
   > autologgedin account can be used to pivot into any online data. iii.   
   > Being intelligent in addition to understanding computers, the little   
   > personal data I do keep is inside encrypted containers, so the phone   
   > itself is only a shell. Without the passphrase the containers stay   
   > closed, and the passphrase is never stored on the device. iv. Because   
   > of that unusual intelligence and comprehensive understanding of why   
   > marketing is so desperate for us to store things on their cloud, the   
   > inconvenience of a lock screen adds no real protection for me, as it   
   > would only add. Convenience matters greatly in my case, where, for   
   > example, if something takes me two steps, I cut it to one (which is   
   > why everything is only a single tap away for me, v. Given most people   
   > aren't anywhere nearly as comprehensive as I am int terms of computer   
   > knowledge, they use a different threat model, where their different   
   > threat model leads to different choices. To most people who fall prey   
   > to those highly marketing cloud accounts, a lock screen makes sense   
   > given they choose a model which requires it. However, I do agree that   
   > it takes uncommon intelligence & knowledge of computers and data   
   > security to successfully avoid accounts and keeping only sensitive   
   > data in encrypted volumes which are accessed infrequently. People who   
   > can't understand the sophisticated threat model I use will never   
   > understand it because they do always what the marketing tells them to   
   > do. I accept prima facie evidence that most people don't think   
   > philosophically about how a computing device "should" be set up to   
   > balance both convenience & privacy, which is why they seem to fall   
   > prey to biometric gimmicks.   
      
   As always YMMV...   
      
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