From: Jeff@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 31/01/2026 18:37, Frank Slootweg wrote:   
   > Andy Burns wrote:   
   >> Steve Hayes wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> There also might be one in your phone, another on the SIM, and yet   
   >>> another in Gmail contacts.   
   >>   
   >> Contacts stored in SIMs? How last century ...   
   >   
   > Well, mobile providers tend to put *their* contacts on their SIMs! :-)   
   > (And the 'local' emergency number. And ...)   
   >   
   > And I used it in the 'dumb'/'feature' phone era to move contacts   
   > between phones (because the phones did not have a standard export/import   
   > functionality) and, trust me, that was in *this* centurty! :-)   
   >   
   > I'm afraid my main SIM still has some ten or so functional 'contact'   
   > numbers on it.   
      
   I only use the SIM for contacts (as I've done since my first phone in   
   1995). I guess I've done that because of lack of a backup then (as   
   you've noted), and it was easy to transfer to a new phone. Well, until   
   the SIM size changed, that is!   
      
   Also, I've always assumed that the phone is more likely to fail than the   
   SIM, so in the absence of a backup the SIM method was safer. Nowadays   
   though, I rarely use my cellphone for anything, and I have no backup for   
   two reasons. Firstly, it isn't necessary with the very limited usage and   
   what I need is stored on my laptop (which is backed up regularly).   
   Secondly, I can't see a way to backup the contacts info without using   
   the internet and going through Google or Xiaomi cloud storage first, and   
   I don't use cloud storage for anything. The phone isn't rootable so the   
   contacts folder isn't accessible for transfer to a computer via USB.   
   Maybe droidkit or shizuku could get to it, but Google seems to be intent   
   on locking the data folders down as much as possible.   
      
   --   
   Jeff   
      
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