From: this@ddress.is.invalid   
      
   Chris Green  wrote:   
   > Frank Slootweg  wrote:   
   > > Chris Green  wrote:   
   > > > Frank Slootweg  wrote:   
   > > > > Chris Green  wrote:   
   [...]   
   > > > > > This is the whole issue, a phone may have VoLTE working with some   
   > > > > > providers but it's hit and miss which ones work with which providers.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   Excuse me, but in which third world country is this?   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   As said, a 4G *phone* *must* do VoLTE and a mobile provider which   
   uses   
   > > > > 4G with no 3G or 2G fallback for calls/SMS *must* provide VoLTE.   
   > > > >   
   > > > Well it's simply not true here in the UK and, as far as I know through   
   > > > the whole of Europe.   
   > >   
   > >   Well, I live in The Netherlands, and my *2016* Huawei Y5 phone, which   
   > > I bought in Australia, did VoLTE perfectly fine when my provider   
   > > (Vodafone) switched off 3G in 2020. And our newer 4G phones also do   
   > > VoLTE.   
   >   
   > So you were lucky, that's fine! :-)   
      
     'Lucky'? With three different phones in a row? I don't think so!   
      
   > >   As several UK posters seem to indicate, this might be a UK problem.   
      
   [...]   
      
   > >   Can any other UK posters comment on this 'support' nonsense?   
      
   [...]   
      
   > > > >   FYI, ever since the later 90s, I have *never* checked/asked my   
   > > > > providers if they 'support' my mobile phones. Why on earth would I!?   
   > > >   
   > > > Exactly!  However, as I say, I have two 4G capable devices neither of   
   > > > which can make phone calls now that 3G has gone. (2G has never had   
   > > > coverage here).  I didn't expect to have to check but having found out   
   > > > that 4G doesn't mean a device can make calls I'm not aiming to be   
   > > > bitten again.   
      
     So did you follow my/our advice to pick a candidate phone, look up the   
   specs on the manufacturer's site an then ask your provider for their   
   'support' of said phone?   
      
     After all, we don't have your kind of problems, so we can't do your   
   work for you.   
      
   > >   You now talk about two devices, but I thought you initially mentioned   
   > > only one, a tablet.   
   > >   
   > >   So what *are* your "two 4G capable devices? Please give some details   
   > > as to brand, model, year, etc..   
      
     Hmmm! So our devices work and your don't, but you don't give any   
   details?   
      
   > >   If they are both tablets, this might well be a tablet issue, because,   
   > > as we said, a 4G *phone* *must* have VoLTE.   
   > >   
   > >   Coming to think of it, is it possible that your "'no name' tablet",   
   > > doesn't have the right 4G *frequency bands* and that it never actually   
   > > used 4G, but now has to, as 3G is switched off?   
   >   
   > It runs 4G data very well   
   >   
   > >   Especially cheap devices do not have all the bands which more   
   > > expensive devices have and if it was a device for another geographic   
   > > area it might not have the right bands. That's why I bought my Huawei Y5   
   > > phone in Australia, so that it would have the correct bands for   
   > > Australia and (most of) the EU.   
   > >   
   > >   So when you're using your "'no name' tablet", does it actually say   
   > > '4G' in the top of the display when you're using mobile data? Yes or no?   
   >   
   > Yes, and so dows the phone.   
      
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