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|    Maria Sophia to Arno Welzel    |
|    Re: Off-topic discussion to ask how we c    |
|    17 Feb 26 14:34:40    |
      From: mariasophia@comprehension.com              Arno Welzel wrote:       > Maria Sophia, 2026-02-16 20:41:       >       >> Arno Welzel wrote:       >>> Just don't reply and don't start "discussions" like this...       >>       >> If Frank stops trolling this newsgeroup, there would be no need to ask       >> Frank politely to stop trolling this newsgroup.       >       > Trolls want responses. If no one responds to troll posts, it becomes       > boring for the troll and he will eventually stop. It's that simple.       >       > The only other alternative would be to block the trolls user account.       > But first of all this will usually not happen just because some people       > complaining about trolling and he can just move on to another server or       > create a different account and continue.              Hi Arno,              I respect your acumen. And that of Carlos. And Chris. And yes, even Frank.              Frank has the capacity to add value.       He just chooses not to.              That's not all.              Frank has the capacity to NOT insult me in his many posts on this ng.       Again, he just chooses not to.              All I'm openly & honestly asking Frank to do in this thread is to cut it       out. If Frank does that, then this thread will have served its purpose.              However... to your point...              I think we need to take into account Occam's Razor when we claim that the       solution to stop trolls is to stop feeding them since I think that's not       the full solution when you take into account variety of troll techniques.              Frank's 'mock-surprise' trolls are vastly different than Joerg Lorenz's       trolls, for example, but if we look at each one, they troll differently.              Would you agree that almost nobody responds to Joerg Lorenz' trolls?       Certainly I never do.              And yet, he trolls.       So, "not feeding him" doesn't seem to have any effect on his actions.              But, Joerg Lorenz' trolls are different from Frank Slootweg's trolls.       And therein lies the reason "this thread" can cut down on them.              Joerg, let's just cut to the point, is an idiot who can't add value.       He's desperate to try, so what his trolls invariably are consist of        1. Mostly he denies anything he doesn't liek that someone says        (without ever proposing a counter argument of course)        2. But almost as often, he picks a troll and amplifies it        (that way the two trolls can reinforce each other              Once in a while, people who aren't trolls at heart (such as Carlos or       Chris) will amplify the trolls' trolls, and in some of those cases, I       simply ask them not to do that (because we're forced to see it).              Having said that, Frank Slootweg's trolls are similar in that he very often       amplifies other trolls, particularly when it's attacking me personally.              If you think I need to validate that statement of fact, then just ask.       As the evidence is ample not only on this ng but on Windows ngs too.              Given Frank has taken a personal slant to his trolls against me, you should       understand why I'm asking Frank openly & honestly here to cut it out.              Seriously.       Think about this fact.              How hard would it be for Frank Slootweg to NOT incessantly hurl insults at       me in his many posts to not only the Windows newsgroups but to Usenet       server, reader & peering ngs too, in addition to this Android newsgroup?              Frank's "mock-surprise" riddle discussed in this thread is his attempt, in       my opinion, to prove is suppsosed clever superiority over me, where the       tell is in teh fact that he refused Richmond's many requests (and mine) to       back up his claim.              Do you remember what Frank said when we asked?       He said it would 'spoil the fun' if he ended his theatrical performance too       soon.              So my only on-topic question to you is whether or not you feel the posts in       this thread which I claim are trolls from Frank, are trolls.       --       If I had wanted to troll, all I'd need to do is respond to Joerg Lorenz.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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