From: mariasophia@comprehension.com   
      
   Arno Welzel wrote:   
   >> This isn't about you. this isn't about me. This is about politely asking   
   >> Frank Slootweg to stop trolling this newsgroup.   
   >   
   > Well - it's a trolls nature to ignore what people want. Why do you think   
   > a troll will stop just because anyone asks for it?   
      
   Hi Arno,   
      
   Frank is a *different* kind of troll than "most trolls" are.   
   I think he *will* stop trolling us if we openly & honestly ask him to.   
      
   I agree though, that this won't work with the likes of Alan Baker's trolls.   
   But I think Frank is someone who *can* add value to this ng's techy topics.   
      
   So it's worth the effort to *try* to ask Frank to stop trolling this ng.   
      
   You may not know this, but Frank Slootweg incessantly hurls personal   
   insults directly at me in many of his posts to the Windows newsgroup, and   
   to the Usenet server, reader and peering newsgroups, in addition to here.   
      
   His goal, in my humble opinion, is clearly shown in the "mock-riddle"   
   trolls I pointed out in this thread as proof of what I'm explaining.   
      
   Frank's "mock-surprise" riddle discussed in this thread is his attempt, in   
   my opinion, to prove his supposed clever superiority over me, where the   
   tell is in the fact that he refused Richmond's multiple honest and open   
   requests (and mine) to back up his claim.   
      
   Do you remember what Frank said when Richmond pressed Frank?   
      
   Frank literally said it would 'spoil the fun' if he ended his theatrical   
   performance too soon. All I ask of you, is, whether that's a troll or not?   
      
   Verbatim...   
      
    From: Frank Slootweg    
    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android   
    Subject: Re: How many apps on your phone have contacts read permission?   
    Date: 15 Feb 2026 14:32:05 GMT   
    Message-ID: <10msota.18d0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>   
      
    Richmond  wrote:   
    > Frank Slootweg  writes:   
    >   
    > > Richmond  wrote:   
    > >> Frank Slootweg  writes:   
    > >>   
    > >> >   Yes, you do store the names and e-mail addresses of your contacts on   
   a   
    > >> > public service, you just don't realize it. The public service you use   
   is   
    > >> > as liable to leaking contact information as the Google service you   
   don't   
    > >> > (want to) use. That's the inconsistency in your argument.   
    > >>   
    > >> That's not the way I read it. I read it as he doesn't use the contacts   
   > >> app, he puts his contacts somewhere else, presumably somewhere which is   
   > >> not stored or backed up to the cloud.   
   > >   
   > >   I'm not commenting on what he says, but on what he does *not* say, but   
   > > still *does*, without realizing it.   
   >   
   > OK, what is it he does without realising it, and how did you know about   
   > it if he didn't?   
      
     Sorry, but that's for him (and perhaps for you?) to find out.   
     I'm not going to spoil it.   
      
     In case you're not aware of who and what 'Maria' a.k.a. 'Arlen' is,   
     I can understand that this looks a rather strange way of (not)   
     discussing things. Be patient.   
      
   Do you see how Frank's theatrical performance isn't deigned to "help"   
   Richmond, or me, or anyone on this newsgroup. No. That's not his goal.   
      
   What is happening here with Frank is not a technical discussion at all.   
   It is a rhetorical game. Frank is deliberately withholding his supposed   
   "gotcha" so he can posture as the clever one in the room (IMHO).   
      
   Q: Is Frank acting like a troll, or not?   
   A: ?   
   --   
   If I had wanted to troll, all I'd have to do is respond to Alan Baker.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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