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   Peter White to All   
   Trump Says "ABC Moderators Were Nasty -    
   11 Jan 26 05:00:47   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: X@Y.com   
      
   publicans know Donald Trump didn’t win Tuesday’s debate. And they know who   
   to blame: the media.   
      
   “It was three-on-one. They continued to engage in so-called fact-checking   
   of Donald Trump. They never did that to Kamala Harris,” Sen. Tom Cotton (R-   
   Ark.) told reporters.   
      
      
      
   Moderators David Muir (left) and Linsey Davis pose for pictures with ABC   
   News crew members at the end of a presidential debate with Vice President   
   Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump at the National   
   Constitution Center in Philadelphia, on Sept. 10. | Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty   
   Images   
      
   By Emily Ngo, Kimberly Leonard, Natalie Allison, Jessica Piper and Holly   
   Otterbein   
      
   09/11/2024 01:59 AM EDT   
      
   PHILADELPHIA — Republicans know Donald Trump didn’t win Tuesday’s debate.   
   And they know who to blame: the media.   
      
   “It was three-on-one. They continued to engage in so-called fact-checking   
   of Donald Trump. They never did that to Kamala Harris,” Sen. Tom Cotton (R-   
   Ark.) told reporters.   
      
   “You have two moderators there who acted as agents of the Harris campaign,”   
   said David Bossie, a longtime Trump adviser and Republican National   
   Committee member from Maryland.   
      
   “It was a little outrageous that they would fact-check only one candidate   
   on the fly,” said Tim Murtaugh, who was the communications director for   
   Trump’s 2020 campaign.   
      
   Trump had been setting the stage for weeks, arguing that the debate would   
   be biased against him. Soon after the debate began, the complaints began   
   rolling in — on social media, at watch parties across the nation — as if on   
   cue: If anyone thought Trump was having a bad debate, it’s because of the   
   media.   
      
   The posture from Trump’s backers on Tuesday stood in contrast to the June   
   debate against President Joe Biden on CNN, which didn’t have any fact   
   checking and left Trump saying he was treated “very fairly.”   
   Trump calls ABC debate his 'best debate ever'   
      
   Just 40 minutes after Tuesday’s debate ended, Trump himself picked up the   
   charge that he was treated unfairly, an allegation on brand with his long-   
   running critique of the news media as biased.   
      
   “I thought that was my best Debate, EVER, especially since it was THREE ON   
   ONE!” the GOP nominee for president posted on Truth Social.   
      
      
   Trump surrogates and staff in the post-debate spin room echoed the   
   argument.   
      
   During the course of the 90-minute debate, ABC News’ David Muir and Linsey   
   Davis repeatedly sought to set the candidates — and the viewing public —   
   straight on Trump’s unsubstantiated allegations. Those false claims   
   included the viral accusation that Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio,   
   kill and eat pets, the charge that Democratic states allow the killing of   
   infants after birth and Trump’s statement that crime in the country is   
   “through the roof.”   
      
   Harris’ claims were less far-fetched, and — to Republicans’ displeasure —   
   the moderators didn’t similarly correct her. However, Davis did confront   
   Harris over her flip-flopping on key issues, including fracking and buyback   
   programs for assault weapons. She also challenged her on why the Biden-   
   Harris administration waited until six months before the election to issue   
   executive actions on the border.   
      
   To Republicans watching, the lopsided fact-checking undermined the   
   legitimacy of the debate and reinforced long-standing beliefs about   
   mainstream media bias against conservatives — and Trump in particular.   
      
   “They made themselves the story,” Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) said in the   
   spin room. He criticized the moderators for not fact-checking Harris’   
   comments on Charlottesville, which he said were taken out of context. He   
   also said Trump’s comments that his loss would result in a “bloodbath,”   
   were intended to be about energy policy and not the election.   
      
   Trump had repeatedly sought to manage expectations about the debate. Just   
   last week, he insisted at a Fox News town hall that Harris would receive   
   questions in advance, though there was no evidence to back up his claim.   
   The moderators squashed the speculation at the start of Tuesday’s debate by   
   saying neither nominee had seen questions ahead of time.   
      
      
      
   Some journalists covering the news media industry commended Davis’ and   
   Muir’s performance, and Republican pollster Frank Luntz, a Trump critic,   
   posted a kudos on X to the moderators for “covering a wider range of topics   
   than most debates.”   
      
   A spokesperson for ABC News did not comment about Trump’s attacks on their   
   credibility.   
      
   At debate watch parties in New York and Florida, Republicans viewed the   
   faceoff as unfairly weighted.   
      
   “I think, in general, she was going to have a home field advantage,” said   
   Gavin Wax, president of the New York Young Republican Club, which hosted a   
   watch party. “They definitely asked her a few questions on some policy   
   changes over the years, but I didn’t really see any fact checks on her, and   
   I think they were definitely necessary.”   
      
   At points throughout the night, the party’s attendees booed the   
   moderators’ pushback on Trump’s claims.   
      
   In Coral Gables, Florida, Katherine Amholt, a board member for Women’s   
   Republican Club of Miami Federated, which hosted a watch party, pointed to   
   opportunities she saw for the moderators to fact-check Harris tying Project   
   2025 to Trump — who didn’t write the plan, though many members of his   
   former administration did. (Trump during the debate again disavowed any   
   connection to the Heritage Foundation effort.)   
      
   Kevin Cooper, vice chair of the Miami-Dade GOP, said he wished the   
   moderators had asked Trump more about his vision for the country rather   
   than heated topics like Jan. 6 and the criminal indictments.   
      
   “It’s more about a review of grievances than it is about the future of our   
   country, and that’s really the moderator’s fault,” he said. “Few questions   
   started with, ‘What would you do?’”   
      
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