From: brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com   
      
   On Jan 11, 2026 at 5:57:58 AM MST, "CrudeSausage" wrote   
   <69639e56$0$19$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:   
      
   > On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 23:44:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-10, CrudeSausage  wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 10:38:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2026-01-10, rbowman  wrote:   
   >>>>> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 08:27:24 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> From a Catholic point of view this is *not* a "just war." (Long.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://catholiccharities.org/wp-content/uploads/Why-Catholic-   
   >>> Charities-   
   >>>>> welcomes-the-stranger.pdf   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> At one time I thought Catholic Charities was one of the more   
   >>>>> worthwhile organizations. I cannot argue with their interpretation of   
   >>>>> social doctrine nor will I support it.  The Catholics are not alone   
   >>>>> among the religious groups working to destroy the culture they were   
   >>>>> built on.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yeah, but this link has nothing to do with the essay on a Just War   
   >>>> that I posted. The essay was written by a traditional Catholic who   
   >>>> actually believes in Catholic doctrine. His arguments against the   
   >>>> insane crap the warmongering moron Trump pulled off in Venezuela were   
   >>>> strong and to the point.   
   >>>   
   >>> I notice that the Catholic author believes that the need to help others   
   >>> is shared among all faiths. I'm sorry but I know enough about   
   >>> muhammedans and their beliefs to know that they have no interest in   
   >>> helping anyone who isn't a muhammedan. They see Christians as dogs, the   
   >>> same way that Jews do.   
   >>   
   >> I'm not an ecumenist and I'm not defending the "social gospel" and   
   >> ecumenist policies of the Modernist, Vatican II Church. But *again* this   
   >> has ZERO to do with what I posted about Catholic teaching on Just Wars.   
   >> And how the warmonger moron Trump has zero justification for his   
   >> actions. (Now he's even talking about stealing Greenland again.)   
   >>   
   >> I'm guessing no one read what I posted (admittedly very long) but had   
   >> they done so, they wouldn't be conflating the current Vatican II "social   
   >> gospel" with traditional Catholic teaching on just wars.   
   >   
   > As it relates to Greenland, I see no issue with Trump wanting to buy the   
   > land since that's what they did with Alaska and Louisiana anyway. As far   
   > as I know, Greenland is completely dependent on Denmark and I can imagine   
   > why the country would be willing to rid itself of the land. As for   
   > Venezuela, I have no sympathy for Maduro and his cronies. Trump didn't   
   > declare a war, he merely used his powers to get rid of a regime that was   
   > definitely causing issues for Americans through the importation of drugs.   
   > Additionally, it was selling oil at a significant loss and doing so was   
   > only benefiting the Communist cronies themselves, not the Venezuelan   
   > people. Considering how Venezuelans themselves unanimously celebrated   
   > Trump's action, I see no reason to denounce Trump at all. A full scale war   
   > would have been another matter, especially since the administration would   
   > have needed Congress to agree. However, we all know that the Democrats   
   > would have gladly taken the side of any murderous tyrant rather than   
   > Trump, so this was the only action he could take.   
      
   Claims that Trump’s Venezuela action was purely about drugs don’t hold up.   
   There’s no solid evidence that Maduro’s government was a major source of   
   fentanyl or most U.S.-bound cocaine, and independent fact-checkers and DEA   
   reports do not support the “Venezuela is killing Americans with drugs”   
   narrative. At the same time, Trump openly linked the operation to oil, telling   
   U.S. executives they could profit from reviving Venezuela’s petroleum sector   
   and suggesting U.S. control of the oil infrastructure was part of the plan. So   
   while the intervention was framed as law-enforcement and anti-drug, Trump   
   himself repeatedly emphasized that securing and monetizing Venezuelan oil was   
   a central goal.   
      
   Sources:   
      
   https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2026/jan-07/donald-trump/M   
   duro-fentanyl-venezuela-mexico-trump/   
      
   https://www.delawarepublic.org/npr-headlines/2026-01-03/trump-cl   
   ims-u-s-strikes-maduro-captured-as-explosions-hit-caracas   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_intervention_in_Venezuela   
      
      
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